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There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.

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  • vksxypants@mastodon.socialV vksxypants@mastodon.social

    @neil so many apps on F-Droid are clearly vibe coded. I literally just downloaded a nice looking launcher, tried it out, checked the source code and it openly said it was a project in vibe coding. Shame as it looked like a nice concept but i can't trust it.

    I used to be able to trust that f-droid apps were ugly, buggy, functional, and made with integrity and care. The toothpaste is clearly out of the tube now but it's a shame what we have lost.

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    #6

    @vksxypants

    > many apps on F-Droid are clearly vibe coded.

    Yes, sadly so. IMHO, these apps should not be permitted in F-Droid's own repo, and that this needs addressing.

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      @vksxypants

      > many apps on F-Droid are clearly vibe coded.

      Yes, sadly so. IMHO, these apps should not be permitted in F-Droid's own repo, and that this needs addressing.

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      #7

      @neil agreed. or at the very least, they have flags for so many things, they could at least have one for LLM use.

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.

        I am not in favour of this.

        In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:

        https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103

        Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.

        (Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)

        harpo_bzh@framapiaf.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @neil
        Please, let the #IA #entshittification out of #fdroid !
        🥺

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.

          I am not in favour of this.

          In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:

          https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103

          Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.

          (Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)

          knirirr@mamot.frK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @neil I've been wondering what I should do about the app I've got on F-droid: https://www.ravelry.com/discuss/beecount/4418207/1-25#3
          Summary: Don't love the tech, but it's been useful in some circumstances.

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.

            I am not in favour of this.

            In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:

            https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103

            Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.

            (Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)

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            #10

            @neil
            While I see your point, I'm just acknowledging that more and more people are writing code with AI tools, being pure vibe coding or AI-assisted coding.
            There's no going back, we should accept the new reality and take all reasonable precautions to keep high the quality of software, no matter the origin.

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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

              There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.

              I am not in favour of this.

              In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:

              https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103

              Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.

              (Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)

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              #11

              @neil Uggg. This is exactly what I was worried would happen, downstreams modeling stuff after this awful GR. We should've just had a proper "we won't make a decision right now" option..

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.

                I am not in favour of this.

                In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:

                https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103

                Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.

                (Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)

                mokhtarstork@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @neil I just started using F-Droid yesterday. Gemini AI assisted me get started.

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.

                  I am not in favour of this.

                  In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:

                  https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103

                  Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.

                  (Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)

                  dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @neil Hmm, IMHO, just no. It's bad enough that Google is dumping GenAI into every bit of Android, we don't need more of that.

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.

                    I am not in favour of this.

                    In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:

                    https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103

                    Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.

                    (Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)

                    noisecolor@toot.communityN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @neil
                    As long as the debate is kept civil.

                    I think it has already become impossible to try to enforce a complete ban on ai and trying to do so would ultimately fail while causing carnage to the community.

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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                      There is a proposal for F-Droid to adopt an interim AI policy, along the lines of Debian's pro-AI policy.

                      I am not in favour of this.

                      In particular, I don't want to see genAI code in either F-Droid's own software, or in apps in F-Droid's repository:

                      https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/work_items/699#note_3771382103

                      Mine is, of course, just one voice. But I will continue to push for human-written FOSS apps, for human users.

                      (Yes, I am an F-Droid board member. Yes, I'm a volunteer, like everyone else. Yes, others seem to have different views. I do what I can.)

                      mattesilver@101010.plM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @neil is f-droid still relevant after this month tho

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