#CrossBorderRail #LongestTrainEU Record Attempt Train 4 of 18R 741515:40 Umeå Östra - Sundsvall C 18:39Norrtåg
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@jon ... in germany we learned, that all solutions outside of DB are better ...
@lobingera In this case it is not true. DB Navigator is *miles* ahead of anything SNCF can make.
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So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight
How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon
Ah no
The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!
@jon In case TGV 9560 to Paris is delayed (only if, probably not), you could catch a southbound intercité de nuit from Paris.
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So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight
How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon
Ah no
The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!
@jon 20 years ago there was also a night train Strasbourg-Nice. Of course that one is also long gone. Was my first night train. Entered in rainy Strasbourg ~18 degrees. Woke up in the morning to see (and smell!) lavender in the sun. Awesome!
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So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight
How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon
Ah no
The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!
@jon "The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15"
No train at 19:00? Ah, a Teddy Bears' Picnic train service:
"At six o'clock their Mommies and Daddies
Will take them home to bed
Because they're tired little Teddy Bears" -
@sebwilken @jon and arrival in Copenhagen around 8:00 would be tough because of the amount of trains during rush hour I suppose.
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@jon In case TGV 9560 to Paris is delayed (only if, probably not), you could catch a southbound intercité de nuit from Paris.
@RensBloom Nope. Different Paris terminals. Not allowed. RER is not Single European Rail Area.
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@lobingera In this case it is not true. DB Navigator is *miles* ahead of anything SNCF can make.
@jon @lobingera Is that DBNav on android? I don’t think I can get the ios version to show a screen like that…
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@sebwilken @jon and arrival in Copenhagen around 8:00 would be tough because of the amount of trains during rush hour I suppose.
@grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.
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@jon @lobingera Is that DBNav on android? I don’t think I can get the ios version to show a screen like that…
@moof @lobingera In a web browser on Mac
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@jon "The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15"
No train at 19:00? Ah, a Teddy Bears' Picnic train service:
"At six o'clock their Mommies and Daddies
Will take them home to bed
Because they're tired little Teddy Bears"@TimWardCam @jon I'm adding that to my summary phrases for pathetic transport, alongside "lethally pantomime junction layout" and "Cycleway Resembling A Pavement"
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@TimWardCam @jon I'm adding that to my summary phrases for pathetic transport, alongside "lethally pantomime junction layout" and "Cycleway Resembling A Pavement"
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@jon ... in germany we learned, that all solutions outside of DB are better ...
@lobingera @jon Thus you obviously never tried to use SNCF-connect.
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@grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.
@jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.
Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.
@Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong
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@moof @lobingera In a web browser on Mac
@jon @moof @lobingera They seem to have added this sidebar thingy with options to the web version just a few days ago
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@jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.
Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.
@Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong
@stefanlindbohm @grlodi @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom Yes, there were plenty of WL4 in the composition! (I was in one!)
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@TimWardCam @jon ah, yes, let's credit Colin Rosenstiel when it's due.
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@jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.
Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.
@Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong
@stefanlindbohm Outside Sweden and Norway, but apart from that correct AFAIK. As long as we don't count the ones that have been bought/leased recently by SJ and Snälltåget. @jon @grlodi @sebwilken
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@grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.
@jon Yes, the 1980s generation of carriages (BC4, WL4, WL6 and more) were built to take advantage of the larger Swedish loading gauge. While the Öresund bridge and tunnel has a large loading gauge, it would probably require a bit of work to be able to run them all the way to Hovedbanegården.
The carriages also lack emergency brake override required across Öresund and are only built for 1,000 V 16 2⁄3 Hz power. @grlodi @sebwilken
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So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight
How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon
Ah no
The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!
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So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight
How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon
Ah no
The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!
So Rick Minnich (the cameraman following me) and I were still smiling at Padborg! Thanks @Pepijn for the pic! #LongestTrainEU
