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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.

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  • bumblefish@mastodon.scotB bumblefish@mastodon.scot

    @bur_d @sundogplanets Google exists.

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    #38

    @Bumblefish @sundogplanets wasn't aware

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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      #39

      @sundogplanets If there's a grey zone, 'Thanks for your effort!' will clear it up instantly.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

        wtl@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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        #40

        @sundogplanets 💯

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        • bur_d@mastodon.socialB bur_d@mastodon.social

          @Bumblefish @sundogplanets wasn't aware

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          #41

          @bur_d @sundogplanets Now y'are. You can also scroll down this thread where several people have helpfully explained.

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          • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

            @sundogplanets sea lions?

            hadon@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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            #42

            @capnthommo @sundogplanets

            I'm also learning the term:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

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            • sam@chven.usS sam@chven.us
              just looked it up and found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
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              #43

              @sam @AndrewGambrill Much obliged, thank you.

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              • bumblefish@mastodon.scotB bumblefish@mastodon.scot

                @bur_d @sundogplanets Now y'are. You can also scroll down this thread where several people have helpfully explained.

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                #44

                @Bumblefish @sundogplanets would this then be considered mansplaining?

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                • fathermcgruder@jorts.horseF fathermcgruder@jorts.horse

                  @knud The offender can always get a new account and other thread participants can decide for themselves if they want to mute. Besides, everything we post is public anyway. Block button overrated.
                  @sundogplanets

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                  #45

                  @knud That said there should definitely be an optional reason field that you can fill out whenever you block someone. Also a duration setting. #FeatureRequest #ActivityPub
                  @sundogplanets

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                  • bur_d@mastodon.socialB bur_d@mastodon.social

                    @Bumblefish @sundogplanets would this then be considered mansplaining?

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                    #46

                    @bur_d @sundogplanets Thanks for your question! A rep will be with you shortly!

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                    • andrewgambrill@mastodon.socialA andrewgambrill@mastodon.social

                      @sam Thanks! Everyday is a school day.

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                      #47

                      @AndrewGambrill @sam I didn't know this either. That said I was enjoying the idea that for she was blocking anyone who posted pictures of them balancing a ball on their nose 😋

                      I learned a new term so that's good though.

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                      • bumblefish@mastodon.scotB bumblefish@mastodon.scot

                        @bur_d @sundogplanets Thanks for your question! A rep will be with you shortly!

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                        #48

                        @Bumblefish @sundogplanets lol

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                        • jguillaumes@mastodont.catJ jguillaumes@mastodont.cat

                          @sundogplanets @cstross please don’t take this as sealioning (it _could_ be something a sealion would ask, but believe me, this is not my intention)

                          Where is the limit of ‘honest asking’ or ‘honest trying to explain’ to ‘sealioning’ or ‘mainaplaining’!

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                          #49

                          @jguillaumes @sundogplanets @cstross

                          I was wondering the same. Specially that in the internet many times there are misunderstandings. We read sentences without having other cues (tone of voice, face expressions), so we can misunderstand a sentence. Specially that we are all from different backgrounds (different native languages, etc).

                          Sometimes I read a sentence, reply, and 20 minutes later I realize I misunderstood 😄 (and come back to correct or apologize, whatever is needed ).

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                            This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                            #50

                            @sundogplanets

                            Why not just ignore them? If you block them they won't have a chance to learn anything anymore.

                            You explain once and if they don't like it or accept it then just ignore them. You don't need to explain twice.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                              This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                              jeffzugale@mastodon.artJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #51

                              @sundogplanets for sea lions I just reply once to them:

                              “ORP ORP ORO ORP ORP!!”

                              Then block. 😁👍

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                              • bur_d@mastodon.socialB bur_d@mastodon.social

                                @sundogplanets I don't understand this post, what are these mapliners and sealions doing and what are they?

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                                #52

                                @bur_d @sundogplanets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

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                                • jeffzugale@mastodon.artJ jeffzugale@mastodon.art

                                  @sundogplanets for sea lions I just reply once to them:

                                  “ORP ORP ORO ORP ORP!!”

                                  Then block. 😁👍

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                                  #53

                                  @jeffzugale @sundogplanets This is a lovely equivalent to the ancient pronouncement of *plonk*.

                                  https://en.everybodywiki.com/Plonk_(Usenet)

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                                  • fathermcgruder@jorts.horseF fathermcgruder@jorts.horse

                                    @knud The offender can always get a new account and other thread participants can decide for themselves if they want to mute. Besides, everything we post is public anyway. Block button overrated.
                                    @sundogplanets

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                                    #54

                                    @fathermcgruder @knud @sundogplanets Yeet button as yet undeveloped

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                                      #55

                                      @sundogplanets I have nothing helpful to suggest (and even if I did I have just enough wit to know this would not be the time), but I hope you end up with whatever approach works best for your mental wellbeing, and I'd like to apologise for the behaviour of many member of my more-snowflaky gender

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

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                                        #56

                                        @sundogplanets

                                        One of the few things from Dune Messiah that stuck with me before I gave up on it was the Bene Tleilaxu notion of warning your enemy of the trap you have set for them as an honourable thing to do.

                                        I've found myself falling into a similar pattern in Internet fight.

                                        All of which is to say, you could reframe your practice as being the honourable thing.

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                                        • hadon@mastodon.socialH hadon@mastodon.social

                                          @sundogplanets

                                          Why not just ignore them? If you block them they won't have a chance to learn anything anymore.

                                          You explain once and if they don't like it or accept it then just ignore them. You don't need to explain twice.

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                                          #57

                                          @hadon @sundogplanets

                                          blocking them removes them from the network centered on the op's posts and reduces their visability. it's remote ostracization and i think it's warranted. they can make a new account or find another account posting awesome things.

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