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  • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

    @be @madengineering @aeva i think corps are far more vulnerable than the state. corps die all the time

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    #32

    @hipsterelectron @be @aeva The physical manifestation of a corporation is a piece of paper, and if you were to get your hands on it, yeah, you could break a corporation in half with almost no effort at all. Fighting the lawyer guarding it would be kind of tricky, though.

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    • madengineering@hachyderm.ioM madengineering@hachyderm.io

      @hipsterelectron @be @aeva The physical manifestation of a corporation is a piece of paper, and if you were to get your hands on it, yeah, you could break a corporation in half with almost no effort at all. Fighting the lawyer guarding it would be kind of tricky, though.

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      #33

      @madengineering @be @aeva i have defeated harvard legal scholars before and i could lay waste to a revolving-door corporate scumbag

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      • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

        @madengineering @be @aeva i have defeated harvard legal scholars before and i could lay waste to a revolving-door corporate scumbag

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        #34

        @hipsterelectron @be @aeva Sounds like there will be a big ink bath on our hands then.

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        • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

          how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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          #35

          @aeva ben kingsley tried but robert redford stopped him 😔 https://youtu.be/uBM_0kLbdb4

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          • howtophil@mastodon.socialH howtophil@mastodon.social

            @madengineering @aeva It requires a concerted effort of an army of hackers/social-engineers to slowly overthrow the banking infrastructure over the course of decades. I, of course, have nothing to do with any such plan, and it... is... completely... fictional

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            #36

            @howtophil @madengineering @aeva

            all knowledge disavowed, and all hardware to do said crimes exploded

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            • cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC cyberquixote@infosec.exchange

              @howtophil @madengineering @aeva

              all knowledge disavowed, and all hardware to do said crimes exploded

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              #37

              @cyberquixote @howtophil @aeva If anyone asks, the exploded hardware in my house was me trying to test my antilogic computer out in a cave, it failed, and I'm just trying to clean up properly and not pollute the environment, please don't tell the insurance company.

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              • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                #38

                @aeva
                Hi, backend dev for SEC-compliant enterprise NAT here.

                Basically because the record keeping laws in place to guard against financial fraud in major institutions also mandate a level of data redundancy and immutability that incidentally guards against such tampering to a level that approaches the US military. Every file creation, update, delete is revision controlled.

                Imagine a fictional financial institution, let's call them Jigglypuff's Professional Money Cabal. First, they don't even have root-user access on their own storage. They can't override the legally mandated retention policy -- even in the off-site backup systems -- without a kernel patch that can't be installed unless it's signed with their storage manufacturer's private key. And at the first sign of compromise, the Cabal runbook is to just immediately flatten the whole thing, reinstall a clean system, and restore from the nearest geo.

                Even if you go full Fight Club and physically destroy the buildings, in multiple cities, they've got another fully redundant and air gapped disaster recovery storage system literally in a bunker underneath a Colorado mountain.

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                • madengineering@hachyderm.ioM madengineering@hachyderm.io

                  @cyberquixote @howtophil @aeva If anyone asks, the exploded hardware in my house was me trying to test my antilogic computer out in a cave, it failed, and I'm just trying to clean up properly and not pollute the environment, please don't tell the insurance company.

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                  #39

                  @madengineering @howtophil @aeva

                  what exploded hardware?

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                  • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                    #40

                    @aeva I think it's because a choice between cashing bug bounties vs. someone putting a bounty on your head, sadly

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                    • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                      #41

                      man, there's nothing sadder than people going to bat for the criminals who know in their hearts that better things aren't possible and just set their aim at the little people instead

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                      • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        man, there's nothing sadder than people going to bat for the criminals who know in their hearts that better things aren't possible and just set their aim at the little people instead

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                        #42

                        anthropic and nvidia *wouldn't even notice if you robbed them*

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                        • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          anthropic and nvidia *wouldn't even notice if you robbed them*

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                          #43

                          @aeva everyone in your replies is talking about the IRS and stuff having crazy security which is fair. but that's different from History's Most Engorged Startups

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                            #44

                            @aeva So, trying to hack banks to delete all evidence of every debt would be cool, but, it's kind of a self-sacrifice option and you probably only get one shot at it.

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                            • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                              #45

                              @aeva who do you think bankrolled their infra lol

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                              • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                                @aeva i'm actually not bc unlike batman my code is "don't work on evil shit" and it's hard to work on hacking into things without losing your soul i think systems of protection are very important to build but some day we will have to go on the attack and i will have my spell slots ready to play healer

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                                #46

                                @hipsterelectron @aeva You can, but you have to make sure your work are done based on sheer amount of will, and spite

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                                • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  anthropic and nvidia *wouldn't even notice if you robbed them*

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                                  #47

                                  maybe go boost my art instead of being a sad party

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                                  • seacow@mastodon.artS seacow@mastodon.art

                                    @aeva ben kingsley tried but robert redford stopped him 😔 https://youtu.be/uBM_0kLbdb4

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                                    #48

                                    @seacow Stopped? He went out for pizza.

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                                    • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                                      #49

                                      @aeva You mean like this?
                                      https://mastodon.ie/@EugeneMcParland/117477728892820043

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                                      • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        how come hackers never do anything cool like erase debt or steal from the ultra wealthy or completely obliterate the credit reporting agencies

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                                        #50

                                        @aeva on #DarknetDiaries there's an interview with someone who erased the records of student debt at a uni. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/139

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