I desperately need Democratic Party leadership to understand that winning the House and Senate cannot mean a return to "normal" pre-Trump.

qasimrashid@mastodon.social

That "normal" pre-Trump is what led to Trump. Don't believe me? Two terms under Obama led us to Trump. Then we rallied and elected Biden in 2020 and got him a trifecta government. Biden stuck to "norms," and it led us right back to Trump in 2024.

If you're not ready to disrupt the entire system that keeps electing Trump, you need to be voted out as well.

grumble209@kolektiva.social

@QasimRashid The Vichy-wing of the Democratic party definitely needs to be curb-stomped.

cultdev@mastodon.social

@QasimRashid they are obviously angling for that. we have to eliminate them all

spiritualannie@chattrbx.com

@QasimRashid

Our normal didn't just lead to TFG.

It also led to climate crisis, discrimination born of fear, a very rich class and a very poor class, illiteracy, incuriosity, scientific doubt - all of which TFG used to manipulate first his followers and financial supporters, then the country, the hemisphere, and the world.

More, TFG is a malignant narcissist who is starting to implode due to narcissistic injuries. He will do as much damage as possible when he goes critical.

csolisr@hub.azkware.net

The fact that this particular Urban Dictionary entry is from 2008 is a proof that this particular wing has been going on for way too long: urbandictionary.com/define.php…

accordionbruce@mastodon.social

@grumble209 @QasimRashid
There’s a whole class within the Democratic Party who gets paid high salaries from big donors, whether we win or lose

Democratic Party needs to institute internal anti-corruption rules

I don’t want to pass any laws to do that

Clean their own house first

peachmcd@union.place

@QasimRashid

Near yours in my feed...

https://sfba.social/@vij/117232815096695502

bici@mastodon.social

@QasimRashid ️

phaedral@beige.party

@QasimRashid If you are more concerned with bashing dems than punching nazis you aren't helping.

benroyce@mastodon.social

@phaedral @QasimRashid

i am regularly spouting the very same sentiment

however we see alternatives now: AOC, Mamdani, El-Sayed, etc

so what we do is vote to get 50 more Mamdanis

people who don't vote out of frustration with centrist democrats are idiots

but we have to articulate a valid response to this dead weak centrism in the democratic party

again:

not voting is for idiots and is acceptance of fascism

not replacing (which we do by voting) centrist dems... is the same, in the long run

phaedral@beige.party

@benroyce @QasimRashid Y'all just make me a little nervous 'cause I remember Susan Sarandon saying if she can't have a Bernie win she was for Trump "because it would bring the revolution." That sort of irresponsible nonsense is dangerous. Either one is helping defeat the nazis or one is aiding them by distracting from the vital task. Spending energy today shitting on any dem is a net win for the nazis.

As you well know.

mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

@QasimRashid

We desperately need new Democratic Party leadership when we win the House and Senate.

contrasocial@mastodon.social

@QasimRashid

Voters need to understand it more so than leadership. Voters need to understand that there are some progressive wins this cycle so far, but "voting blue no matter who" isn't enough any more. A bunxh of Newsoms or Buttigiegs aren't going to save our country.

If we want to avoid returning to normal it means continuing to push even if there is a blue wave. It means rooting out every corporate democrat and replacing them with an actual leftist.

benroyce@mastodon.social

@phaedral @QasimRashid

Susan Sarandon is an idiot

She means well but we are all familiar with people who mean well but by their (in)action they only make things worse

Standing on perfection and not participating, allowing far worse to dominate, is for ineffectual losers who value their holy self-regard over obvious real world peril

It's pure entitlement and privilege, because the bad effects won't touch them, so they play their smug games

We need to vote. To replace centrist democrat shit

phaedral@beige.party

@benroyce @QasimRashid ...to kick the fucking gop to the curb. When you've accomplished that get back to me about "centrists." But first, clobber the nazis, eh?

benroyce@mastodon.social

@phaedral @QasimRashid

zero argument

simple tactics: hold the line so we can fight another day

against that we have idiots who think a vote is a devotional love letter of eternal purity. which is fucking immature and stupid. but that's how they are, so they don't vote, so we don't hold the line, so now our struggle is harder

it's just fucking tactics!

the deeper issue:

we take over the democrats with real leftists in the primaries

two different struggles

complementary, not contradictory

benroyce@mastodon.social

@contrasocial @QasimRashid

well said

jacklund@freeradical.zone

@QasimRashid ️This!!!

n_dimension@infosec.exchange

@QasimRashid

"Normal" should have been public flagellation of the January 6th terrorists and throwing in jail the adjudicated rapist, traitor and fraudster, agent Krasnov.

Followed by the voting out all the "Democrats" who voted for confimation of the extremists High court kangaroo court judges and repugnican departmental officials.