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  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

    My message to Senators:

    ❝The correct amount of funding for not just ICE but the •entire Department of Homeland Security• is zero. ZERO. You heard me: the entire agency. Under current leadership, it is off the rails. It is dangerous. It it a menace.

    “More training” is a pathetic non-answer; that just means more money. These murderers are trained; they are just monsters. Don’t say “better oversight.” Don’t say “more reforms.” Pull the rug. Switch it off. • Shut • it • down • NOW •

    If you have to shut down every airport in the country because the TSA budget is in there too, then you shut down every damned airport in the country. If you have to shut down the federal government again, you shut it down. Your inaction is sleepwalking the country into civil war. SHUT. IT. DOWN.❞

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    #63

    @inthehands
    Department of Fatherland Security
    AKA
    Council of Ministers for the Defense of the Reich

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    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

      I don’t actually expect centrist Senators to do this. I mean… come on. But a bunch of these noodle-spined tools think politics means splitting the difference between opposing positions, so I’m just giving them an opposing position that actually packs a punch before they water it down. (“Don’t negotiate against yourself. Ask for what you want.”)

      3/

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      #64

      @inthehands
      🙏🏻😁 What excellent advice: “Don’t negotiate against yourself. Ask for what you want.”
      Love reading what you urge: so clear and practical.
      Better resourcing for mental health & to improve substandard education needed longer term - not more policing.

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      • slimhazard@mastodon.worldS slimhazard@mastodon.world

        @Vonskinnback as @inthehands has pointed out, these are the moderate solutions. My more radical version would be to exile them to North Korea. If they want to grovel before a preposterous dictator, let them go do that. Put them on a boat off the North Korean coast, let it drift towards the shore, good bye and good riddance.

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        #65

        @slimhazard
        Hmm, was going to suggest the #Epstein island but your idea is better. Or… maybe there’s enough for both?

        Make Exile Great Again
        #USPol #Epstein #NorthKorea #Exile

        @Vonskinnback @inthehands

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        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

          @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

          Republican billionaires funded a multi-front war on democracy.

          Courts. Congress. Disinformation. Sabotaging education. Book bans. Defunding higher education. Decades of Fox News blasting away into the minds of soldiers on military bases.

          An equally broad response is required to counteract it.

          A counterinsurgency needs guerilla tactics beyond simply voting.

          Get creative. A big one is collecting evidence for war crimes trials. DNA. Payroll records. ID'S.

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          #66

          @Npars01 @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands Look at the tactics of fascists butthurt about masks. Most of those didn’t own the trucks they used to block roads and bridges. Look at the guys who occupied the Malheur facility. They were openly armed, but only one was shot and he had to repeatedly threaten to draw down on FBI before finally getting shot. I know the threshold will be nowhere near that high, but we need to start playing their game.

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          • stepheneb@ruby.socialS stepheneb@ruby.social

            @EndicottAuthor

            Yes. And …??

            @inthehands

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            #67

            @stepheneb @inthehands And it's a campaign of retribution. MN didn't vote for DJT 3 times. Now he's taking out his revenge on them.

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            • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

              UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

              Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

              My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

              Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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              #68

              @inthehands

              What every US citizen can simply do NOW

              we #US citizens need to immediately demand
              our #Congress impeach and convict Trump asap,
              or be #primaried by those who will
              write/phone/email/scream outside their offices

              find those candidates https://www.citizensimpeachment.com/
              https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

              Let's do #Democracy
              Spread the word

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              • su_liam@mas.toS su_liam@mas.to

                @Npars01 @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands Look at the tactics of fascists butthurt about masks. Most of those didn’t own the trucks they used to block roads and bridges. Look at the guys who occupied the Malheur facility. They were openly armed, but only one was shot and he had to repeatedly threaten to draw down on FBI before finally getting shot. I know the threshold will be nowhere near that high, but we need to start playing their game.

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                #69

                @su_liam @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

                There is no "game".

                It's a state terror campaign.

                Terror campaigns too easily evolve into decades long factional violence.

                Tit-for-tat retaliation like Ireland's "The Troubles" or the Gaza Genocide.

                They often lead to collaped states run by warlords like Lebanon.

                Not recommended. The USA is still retrievable if the overly simplistic "solutions" like civil war or factional political violence is avoided.

                Suggest cutting off the MAGA money 1st

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  @su_liam @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

                  There is no "game".

                  It's a state terror campaign.

                  Terror campaigns too easily evolve into decades long factional violence.

                  Tit-for-tat retaliation like Ireland's "The Troubles" or the Gaza Genocide.

                  They often lead to collaped states run by warlords like Lebanon.

                  Not recommended. The USA is still retrievable if the overly simplistic "solutions" like civil war or factional political violence is avoided.

                  Suggest cutting off the MAGA money 1st

                  1/

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                  #70

                  2/

                  Cutting off the MAGA money.

                  1. Find a supply of Rose Volland's to track it
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Valland

                  2. Gather evidence on the complicit
                  https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5705828-walz-bondi-immigration-dispute/

                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2026/01/23/rogan-suggests-trumps-using-ice-raids-to-distract-from-epstein-files/

                  3. A global effort to track & eliminate tax evasion
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuxLeaks

                  https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_Papers

                  4. Gather evidence of the lies
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

                  5. Get depositions & witness testimony right after each murder. Spread the word.

                  6. Get evidence
                  https://www.britannica.com/topic/IG-Farben

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    2/

                    Cutting off the MAGA money.

                    1. Find a supply of Rose Volland's to track it
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Valland

                    2. Gather evidence on the complicit
                    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5705828-walz-bondi-immigration-dispute/

                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2026/01/23/rogan-suggests-trumps-using-ice-raids-to-distract-from-epstein-files/

                    3. A global effort to track & eliminate tax evasion
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuxLeaks

                    https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_Papers

                    4. Gather evidence of the lies
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

                    5. Get depositions & witness testimony right after each murder. Spread the word.

                    6. Get evidence
                    https://www.britannica.com/topic/IG-Farben

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                    #71

                    3/

                    7. Accelerate the switch to renewable energy. MAGA is funded by fossil fuel cash.

                    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/05/texas-fracking-billionaire-brothers-prageru-daily-wire

                    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/tim-dunn-texas-oil-billionaire-trump-donor-1235033143/

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

                    https://www.desmog.com/2024/12/16/6-fracking-billionaires-and-climate-denial-groups-behind-trumps-cabinet/

                    8. Sanction The Moneyed dynasties behind MAGA & Project 2025

                    https://www.desmog.com/2016/01/21/beyond-koch-brothers-scaife-olin-bradley-jane-mayer-dark-money/

                    https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/25/project-2025-trump-mapped-how-6-billionaire-family-fortunes-fund-climate-denial/

                    9. Bankrupt the AI tech bros. Fast.

                    https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/09/ai-and-the-fight-between-democracy-and-autocracy/684095/

                    https://www.404media.co/ai-is-supercharging-the-war-on-libraries-education-and-human-knowledge/

                    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/11/elon-musk-ai-grok-nazi-meltdown

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                    • dsmdexter@mastodon.socialD dsmdexter@mastodon.social

                      @inthehands
                      Can the senate impeach, or does the house have to do it like with the president?

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                      #72

                      @dsmdexter @inthehands

                      The House starts impeachments. The Senate finishes them.

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                      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                        My message to Senators:

                        ❝The correct amount of funding for not just ICE but the •entire Department of Homeland Security• is zero. ZERO. You heard me: the entire agency. Under current leadership, it is off the rails. It is dangerous. It it a menace.

                        “More training” is a pathetic non-answer; that just means more money. These murderers are trained; they are just monsters. Don’t say “better oversight.” Don’t say “more reforms.” Pull the rug. Switch it off. • Shut • it • down • NOW •

                        If you have to shut down every airport in the country because the TSA budget is in there too, then you shut down every damned airport in the country. If you have to shut down the federal government again, you shut it down. Your inaction is sleepwalking the country into civil war. SHUT. IT. DOWN.❞

                        2/

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                        #73

                        @inthehands

                        I remember thinking, when it was established, that it’s only oppressive authoritarian countries that find a use for a Department of Homeland Security.

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                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                          UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                          Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                          My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                          Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                          #74

                          @inthehands

                          I want ICE disbanded immediately and payroll rescinded. These are folks who joined the Nazis with both eyes open. They should not be paid for their part in joining an operation for murdering citizens. They don't get that $50k. They don't get whatever they were set to. If the Trump administration can cancel payroll for however many people at the say of DOGE, this should be juuust fine.

                          I really want them locked up in freezing concrete bunkers with no toiletries, clothes or food for weeks, but our system still believes in humane treatment for mass murderers.

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                          • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                            UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                            Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                            My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                            Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                            #75

                            @inthehands

                            A little problem we face this year is that many of those Dem politicians are not scared of you because they have the whole thing stitched up.

                            I don't mean electoral fraud; just run of the mill political kettling where you have to choose between full-on evil and demure evil. No other choices, welcome to democracy!

                            I don't have a solution to this problem, but the problem is as much the Democratic party as it is MAGA, as these "centrists" incomprehensible position illustrates.

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                            • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                              @inthehands

                              A little problem we face this year is that many of those Dem politicians are not scared of you because they have the whole thing stitched up.

                              I don't mean electoral fraud; just run of the mill political kettling where you have to choose between full-on evil and demure evil. No other choices, welcome to democracy!

                              I don't have a solution to this problem, but the problem is as much the Democratic party as it is MAGA, as these "centrists" incomprehensible position illustrates.

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                              #76

                              @johnzajac @inthehands there _is_ a solution to this - it's not a perfect one or even an easy one... but culturally, one of the things I have always liked about the Democratic Party is that democrats are cheerfully willing to bare knuckle fight other democrats when they disagree.

                              The party has tried to tamp down on this tendency since the Clinton years, but it never goes away. The trick is, though... (sorry, I'm getting long winded, I'm going to need another one of these...)

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                              • ubersoft@mastodon.socialU ubersoft@mastodon.social

                                @johnzajac @inthehands there _is_ a solution to this - it's not a perfect one or even an easy one... but culturally, one of the things I have always liked about the Democratic Party is that democrats are cheerfully willing to bare knuckle fight other democrats when they disagree.

                                The party has tried to tamp down on this tendency since the Clinton years, but it never goes away. The trick is, though... (sorry, I'm getting long winded, I'm going to need another one of these...)

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                                #77

                                @johnzajac @inthehands ...that the candidates you send in to battle the old guard have a tendency to get diluted. That's sadly very hard to avoid, when the new blood is trying to figure out how to navigate the machinery, but it can be countered by sending even more democrats even further from the old guard immediately after.

                                It's part of what the Republicans did, only they moved in the other direction.

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                                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                  UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                                  Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                                  My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                                  Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                                  #78

                                  @inthehands On Day 1, Biden should have written a memo "I have determined that Donald Trump is an alien enemy aligned with Russia.", forced his plane to land while still on route to Mar-a-Lago, and taken him and sent him over to Guantanamo ...

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                                  • otfrom@functional.cafeO otfrom@functional.cafe

                                    @trochee @inthehands @garbados just read the story and it is still the moderate position

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                                    #79

                                    @otfrom @inthehands @garbados Yep, we only mulch SOME of the ICE/Miller/Bannon types, and let the oligarchs capture & torture each other

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                                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                      And to be clear, zeroing out the budget, scrapping the DHS, returning its law enforcement duties to local agencies, and prosecuting ICE officers — all of that! — is the •moderate• position here.

                                      The extremist position is violence of a kind and scale I shudder to contemplate.

                                      Pressure them. Rattle them out of their stupor.

                                      /end

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                                      #80

                                      @inthehands You shouldn't be doing "law enforcement", you should be doing just regular policing instead. Laws being violated is just one kind of risk to public order and security, and it needs to be balanced against other ones.

                                      And I'm appalled that this term has made its way even into EU law, probably through bureaucrats with an insufficient knowledge of English.

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                                      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                        And to be clear, zeroing out the budget, scrapping the DHS, returning its law enforcement duties to local agencies, and prosecuting ICE officers — all of that! — is the •moderate• position here.

                                        The extremist position is violence of a kind and scale I shudder to contemplate.

                                        Pressure them. Rattle them out of their stupor.

                                        /end

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                                        #81

                                        @inthehands I would ask that FEMA be transferred to another department before you shutdown DHS.

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                                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                          And to be clear, zeroing out the budget, scrapping the DHS, returning its law enforcement duties to local agencies, and prosecuting ICE officers — all of that! — is the •moderate• position here.

                                          The extremist position is violence of a kind and scale I shudder to contemplate.

                                          Pressure them. Rattle them out of their stupor.

                                          /end

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                                          #82

                                          @inthehands Cc @SeanCasten

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