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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

    Do you have any recommendations?

    So far, at the top of my list I have:

    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

    pythonbynight@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
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    pythonbynight@hachyderm.io
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    #124

    @_elena Most (maybe all?) of my writing on my blog this year has been in response to tech-industry's harms in pushing LLMs.

    https://pythonbynight.com/blog

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    • th@social.v.stT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #125

      @jwildeboer @blainsmith @_elena @jan do you know how to get the compiler to produce working executables on the Underwood Portable?

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      • groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG groupnebula563@mastodon.social

        @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante not sure if this counts, but I am adamantly #NoAI! all of my videos on @groupnebula563@cuddly.tube are proudly AI-free and my https://hit-counter.net project won’t provide counters to sites containing AI content! 🙂

        riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #126

        @GroupNebula563@mastodon.social @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante @groupnebula563@cuddly.tube

        https://toot.cat/@riley/116209585426042145?

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        • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

          @GroupNebula563@mastodon.social @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante @groupnebula563@cuddly.tube

          https://toot.cat/@riley/116209585426042145?

          groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #127

          @riley @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante @groupnebula563@cuddly.tube oh, absolutely! I’ve already reblogged that, even 😛

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

            Do you have any recommendations?

            So far, at the top of my list I have:

            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

            alex@social.alexschroeder.chA This user is from outside of this forum
            alex@social.alexschroeder.chA This user is from outside of this forum
            alex@social.alexschroeder.ch
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            #128

            @_elena It's not very popular but I use the hashtag #ButlerianJihad.

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            • elwollito@muenchen.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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              elwollito@muenchen.social
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              #129

              @davidrevoy @_elena @kawunngg
              all of the big models are trained on Reddit so I don´t think additional tarpits are needen

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              • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                @Justin @_elena
                I am a big opponent of hype and slop and misuse - but I'm a realist and expect that the technology won't go away. No matter wether I like it or not.

                So I don't regard it weird at all.

                But if you want me to take a position to be either a proponent OR opponent - well then I have to disappoint.

                justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #130

                @hikingdude @_elena you are literally indistinguishable from any other slop proponent. Centrism for AI. Not all AI, this argument is so so so old its almost funny.

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                • trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT trezzer@social.linux.pizza

                  @_elena I wish we'd have CW for both sides, because I really don't want to hear more from either. Enough has been said to make up minds, and now it just seems like an infinite echo that is slowly driving me mad.

                  detours_anachroniques@piaille.frD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #131

                  @trezzer @_elena Isn't that what the Internet has become? 😭

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                  • andycarolan@social.lolA andycarolan@social.lol

                    @_elena While I don't feel that I belong on such a list, I resist as much and as often as I can.

                    shellsharks@shellsharks.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #132

                    @andycarolan @_elena Same. I’m not as prolific with my anti-AI position as some that you’ve mentioned but my thoughts and feelings have definitely been made known. Here’s my canonical stance on AI here —> https://shellsharks.com/ai. TL;DR: I don’t like AI 🤭

                    Some other suggestions off the top of my head…
                    - @WeirdWriter (I mean have you read THIS yet? https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/the-colonization-of-confidence/)
                    - @mttaggart
                    - @32x33
                    - @bagder (well he’s had his AI run-ins 😅)
                    - @robb
                    - @joxean
                    - @brennan
                    - @neurovagrant
                    - @Viss

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante I also just add a little assertion that one other thing I hate about this moment of "AI" is that the field of "AI" has had many interesting branches in it, and now we only talk about one (machine learning models) and I am deeply bitter about that.

                      qurlyjoe@mstdn.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #133

                      @cwebber
                      There are many scientific and technological realms where AI is able to massage large volumes of data quickly to find solutions to all kinds of problems. This is good. Using AI to make deepfake porn, not so much. If only there were a way to promote one without the other latching on.

                      @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                        Do you have any recommendations?

                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                        leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.euL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #134

                        @_elena Would you be willing to share your list? 🙂

                        #NoAI

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                        • shellsharks@shellsharks.socialS shellsharks@shellsharks.social

                          @andycarolan @_elena Same. I’m not as prolific with my anti-AI position as some that you’ve mentioned but my thoughts and feelings have definitely been made known. Here’s my canonical stance on AI here —> https://shellsharks.com/ai. TL;DR: I don’t like AI 🤭

                          Some other suggestions off the top of my head…
                          - @WeirdWriter (I mean have you read THIS yet? https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/the-colonization-of-confidence/)
                          - @mttaggart
                          - @32x33
                          - @bagder (well he’s had his AI run-ins 😅)
                          - @robb
                          - @joxean
                          - @brennan
                          - @neurovagrant
                          - @Viss

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                          #135

                          @shellsharks Thanks for the list of people! That's awesome. I think your position on AI is similar to mine. I did once have an /ai slashpage, but I removed it as I have a single line in my FAQ page, but I might rewrite that to better explain my thoughts. @_elena @WeirdWriter @mttaggart @32x33 @bagder @robb @joxean @brennan @neurovagrant @Viss

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                            Do you have any recommendations?

                            So far, at the top of my list I have:

                            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                            tlariv@mastodon.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            tlariv@mastodon.cloud
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #136

                            @_elena

                            They don't seem to be very active in the fedi, but @randomwalker and @sayashk are Princeton computer scientists who cowrote the excellent book AI Snake Oil and now and now maintain https://www.normaltech.ai/p/ai-as-normal-technology

                            @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                              Do you have any recommendations?

                              So far, at the top of my list I have:

                              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                              wizardofdocs@wandering.shopW This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wizardofdocs@wandering.shop
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #137

                              @_elena I complain a lot about being forced to use LLMs at work
                              @jacel even more so
                              Not sure if that's what you're looking for, but we're here too

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                              • jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ jan@social.dytrych.cloud

                                @_elena regarding LLMs, it's crazy from developers' perspective. BIG tech is pushing LLMs hard to developers, saying you'll lose job or will be paid less if not using LLMs. That's what they are pushing, my colleague did even said "If you're not going to use it, you'll lose job or will be paid less." My boss doesn't like to use LLM for development, so far so good, but there is huge push and pressure towards it.

                                robotistry@mstdn.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #138

                                @jan @_elena Waiting for the rise of artisanal coding, when people who code without LLMs are paid extra money to provide customized, reliable code.

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                                • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

                                  @gbargoud

                                  Same!
                                  I also use content warnings when I answer to a 'puzzle' to not give away the answer 😀

                                  And then: as a teacher of Adobe software, I usually start the first classes with 'We won't be using AI, what's more: I will show you how to hide all their AI options. You can make them visible again once you have enough skills and knowledge to evaluate their results. You need to learn how to do it first, before you let AI do this automatically."

                                  Teaching people skills: 💗

                                  @_elena @trezzer

                                  jerrej@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #139

                                  @pascaline @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

                                  In that context I remember "AI" as Adobe InDesign. Do you?

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Dear Fedi friends,

                                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                    Do you have any recommendations?

                                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                    yoasif@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #140

                                    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I have been posting about this topic -- see https://www.quippd.com/writing/2025/12/17/AIs-unpaid-debt-how-llm-scrapers-destroy-the-social-contract-of-open-source.html for a sample.

                                    Also boost stuff I see. 🙂

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Dear Fedi friends,

                                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                      Do you have any recommendations?

                                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                      thomas@schoffelen.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #141

                                      @_elena It’s funny, I only really see people who are intensely hardline anti-AI on Mastodon, and only enthusiastic shortsighted AI bros on LinkedIn. Where’s the sensible center? (or people that don’t talk about AI at all, even better!)

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                                      • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

                                        @pascaline @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

                                        In that context I remember "AI" as Adobe InDesign. Do you?

                                        pascaline@mastodon.nlP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #142

                                        @jerrej

                                        AI is Adobe Illustrator 😊
                                        ID is for InDesign.
                                        InDesign came much later. It was a clever move to develop it since it took away so many QuarkXpress users. Since InDesign was 'already in the suite' at the time, users quickly took to it.

                                        @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

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                                        • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

                                          @pascaline @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

                                          In that context I remember "AI" as Adobe InDesign. Do you?

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                                          #143

                                          @jerrej @pascaline @gbargoud @_elena Haha. I didn’t use it myself, but I know exactly what you are referring to.

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