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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    @_elena Film idea: "Back to the roots". They meet in secret. In coding dojos. They write code by hand. They have ancient books, real books, printed, with names like "Assembly Guide for the x86 ISA", "High Performance Python" that are sacred bibles of ancient knowledge. Follow our hero as she goes from LLM withdrawal to changing the world with hand-written code that frees the minds of millions. @jan

    blainsmith@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #38

    @jwildeboer Not sure why, but I just had scenes from "Dead Poets Society" flash in my head when reading this.

    @_elena @jan

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #39

      @onepict @WeirdWriter thank you for the great recommendation!

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      • blainsmith@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #40

        @jwildeboer Sounding like we need to make this happen somehow now haha

        @_elena @jan

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

          Do you have any recommendations?

          So far, at the top of my list I have:

          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

          michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
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          michelpatrice@jasette.facil.services
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          #41

          @_elena

          I came across a cool humoristic method of resistance, see the For Ai Only section :
          https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1124/new-rss-feeds-landing

          (Si tu ne connais pas David Revoy, son travail est intéressant.)

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          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

            @_elena Film idea: "Back to the roots". They meet in secret. In coding dojos. They write code by hand. They have ancient books, real books, printed, with names like "Assembly Guide for the x86 ISA", "High Performance Python" that are sacred bibles of ancient knowledge. Follow our hero as she goes from LLM withdrawal to changing the world with hand-written code that frees the minds of millions. @jan

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            #42

            @jwildeboer @_elena @jan just read a wonderful piece on literature and LLMs, which has a part that is eerily similar to your idea 😁

            I think you might like it ☺️

            https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/the-colonization-of-confidence/

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            • fmarini@mastodon.socialF fmarini@mastodon.social

              @jwildeboer @_elena @jan just read a wonderful piece on literature and LLMs, which has a part that is eerily similar to your idea 😁

              I think you might like it ☺️

              https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/the-colonization-of-confidence/

              jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #43

              @fmarini Yes, I read (and shared) that too the day it was published 🙂 @_elena @jan

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                Do you have any recommendations?

                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                standard_phil@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #44

                @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Anil Dash @anildash belongs on your list, I think.

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                • onepunchmango@radikal.socialO onepunchmango@radikal.social

                  @707Kat they argue and explain heavily against their usage and limitations in most things, and eloquently so. It's a good way both to keep up with* recent developments, learn, and get the vocabluary to talk about it with other people.

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                  #45

                  @onepunchmango I'm aware of what the EFF do. I'm not saying they don't do a lot of good. However, they are not against LLMs and up until recently they were positive about its usage. Even though the technology inherently relies on voiding people's privacy. For the longest time they cheered on it as a way to beat Copyright and boost free information, ignoring people who tried to explain why it would be damaging.

                  Try taking a look at how this page has changed this month:
                  https://web.archive.org/web/20260000000000*/https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/effs-policy-llm-assisted-contributions-our-open-source-projects

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                  • standard_phil@infosec.exchangeS standard_phil@infosec.exchange

                    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Anil Dash @anildash belongs on your list, I think.

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                    #46

                    @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                      Do you have any recommendations?

                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                      esi@merveilles.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #47

                      @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                        Do you have any recommendations?

                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                        eivind@mastodon.fjerland.noE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #48

                        @_elena I certainly don't expect to be on such a list, but I sympahtise, and I am of course strongly opposed to LLMs. I think you got good suggestions already, so I'll just chime in to say I agree.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                          Do you have any recommendations?

                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                          onepict@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                          onepict@chaos.social
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                          #49

                          @_elena We also have projects that are explicitly not accepting AI like @gentoo .

                          We also have folk like @xgranade who is working on a fork of calibre. Which I am very grateful for.

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                            Do you have any recommendations?

                            So far, at the top of my list I have:

                            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                            fasterandworse@hci.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            fasterandworse@hci.social
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                            #50

                            @_elena I recommend @zzt @davidgerard @froztbyte @kimcrawley / @crowgirl

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                              Do you have any recommendations?

                              So far, at the top of my list I have:

                              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                              glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              glamcode@openbiblio.social
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                              #51

                              @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

                              - @baldur
                              - @RainerMuehlhoff
                              - @Weizenbaum_Institut
                              - @olivia
                              - @quinta
                              - @lapcatsoftware
                              - @dylan

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Dear Fedi friends,

                                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                Do you have any recommendations?

                                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #52

                                @_elena I'm noisy enough about it to release a slopfree index and blog about it a bit, although I try (only semi-successfully) to balance out my feed with stuff that isn't AI

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                                • glamcode@openbiblio.socialG glamcode@openbiblio.social

                                  @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

                                  - @baldur
                                  - @RainerMuehlhoff
                                  - @Weizenbaum_Institut
                                  - @olivia
                                  - @quinta
                                  - @lapcatsoftware
                                  - @dylan

                                  lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #53

                                  @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    @davidgerard THANK YOU!!!

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                                    #54

                                    @_elena @davidgerard ❤️

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                                    • esi@merveilles.townE esi@merveilles.town

                                      @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

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                                      #55

                                      @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                                      I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                                      https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                                      Some relevant examples:
                                      https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                                      https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                                      https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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                                      • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

                                        @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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                                        #56

                                        @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          Dear Fedi friends,

                                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                          Do you have any recommendations?

                                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                          hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          hikingdude@mastodon.social
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                                          #57

                                          @_elena
                                          That's difficult.
                                          Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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