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  • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

    @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

    glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #56

    @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

      Do you have any recommendations?

      So far, at the top of my list I have:

      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

      hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
      hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
      hikingdude@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #57

      @_elena
      That's difficult.
      Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

      justin@social.younger.wtfJ 1 Reply Last reply
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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

        Do you have any recommendations?

        So far, at the top of my list I have:

        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

        dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
        dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
        dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #58

        @_elena
        Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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        • mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
          mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
          mkj@social.mkj.earth
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          #59

          @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

          🙂

          @_elena @kawunngg

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

            Do you have any recommendations?

            So far, at the top of my list I have:

            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

            dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
            dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
            dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #60

            @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              @trezzer I feel really bad because I use CW super frequently.

              Sorry it didn't occur to me for this post but I will use CW from now on...

              punissuer@universeodon.comP This user is from outside of this forum
              punissuer@universeodon.comP This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #61

              @_elena @trezzer i would have thought that CWs are for topics that might trigger trauma or distress, and user filtering for I've-seen-enough-of-this-already 🤷

              trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT 1 Reply Last reply
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              • 707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
                707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                #62

                @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

                Thank you, David!

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                • zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
                  zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
                  zipkid@gts.solfood.be
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #63

                  @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

                  @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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                  • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                    @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

                    aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                    aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #64

                    @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                    merci!

                    Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                    • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

                      @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                      merci!

                      Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #65

                      @Aepasek merci Anne !

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                      • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

                        @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #66

                        @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                        P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                        @davidgerard

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                          _elena@mastodon.social
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                          #67

                          @davidrevoy awww I LOVE this quote. Thanks for sharing David!!! And taking this opportunity to thank you for your extraordinary work

                          @kawunngg

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                          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                            @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                            I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                            https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                            Some relevant examples:
                            https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                            https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                            https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #68

                            @rysiek of course I should have already thought of you. Adding you to the list! ❤️

                            @esi

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                              Do you have any recommendations?

                              So far, at the top of my list I have:

                              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                              drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
                              drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
                              drewtowler@mas.to
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #69

                              @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'm a cloud app developer and I post from a fairly rabid anti-AI viewpoint sometimes - though whether that makes me recommendable I have no idea.

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                              • anildash@me.dmA anildash@me.dm

                                @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

                                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                _elena@mastodon.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #70

                                @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

                                FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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                                • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                                  @_elena
                                  That's difficult.
                                  Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

                                  justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  justin@social.younger.wtf
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #71

                                  @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

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                                  • hwll@sunny.gardenH This user is from outside of this forum
                                    hwll@sunny.gardenH This user is from outside of this forum
                                    hwll@sunny.garden
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #72

                                    @onepict @_elena @WeirdWriter well I'm fucking crying. Really damn good story, the first one. (Would read the second but I have to dry my cheeks and go to work, whew!)

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Dear Fedi friends,

                                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                      Do you have any recommendations?

                                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                      dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #73

                                      @_elena (I've allowed myself to cut the CC)
                                      I'd add Ed Zitron (no known mastodon, IDK if his BS is bridged), yet his style is very… “raw”, yet to the point.

                                      @aftermath.site and @404mediaco, but you probably already know (about) the individual creators.

                                      IDK about Cory Doctorow with his late LLM usage confession with a preemptive rhetorical strike.

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Dear Fedi friends,

                                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                        Do you have any recommendations?

                                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                        csepp@merveilles.townC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        csepp@merveilles.townC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        csepp@merveilles.town
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #74

                                        @_elena There is of course @algernon of Iocaine fame.

                                        (re: CW, Mastodon has editing now, you could easily edit your post to add a CW if you forgot to)

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          Dear Fedi friends,

                                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                          Do you have any recommendations?

                                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                          ki@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                                          ki@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                                          ki@chaos.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #75

                                          @_elena

                                          good idea, added a respective hashtag to my bio

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