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The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth.

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  • gunchleoc@mastodon.scotG gunchleoc@mastodon.scot

    @itchi5 The problem is, even if @allaboutberlin switches to using a different search engine themselves by yesterday, they can't stop anybody else from using Google as their search engine. So, raising awareness or trying to put pressure on politicians is the only thing they can do really.

    @everton137

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    #36

    @gunchleoc @allaboutberlin @everton137

    Raising awareness is always good, but not looking for substitutes is just making it worse.

    The gigantic corporation Google started growing with a few people, so can substitutes.

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    • itchi5@illo.socialI itchi5@illo.social

      @gunchleoc @allaboutberlin @everton137

      Raising awareness is always good, but not looking for substitutes is just making it worse.

      The gigantic corporation Google started growing with a few people, so can substitutes.

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      #37

      @itchi5 You are right, but the problem is, they can't control what other people are using. They can only encourage them to switch, but not force them to do anything.

      I haven't used any Google frontends in years except for the occasional YouTube.

      @allaboutberlin @everton137

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      • gunchleoc@mastodon.scotG gunchleoc@mastodon.scot

        @itchi5 You are right, but the problem is, they can't control what other people are using. They can only encourage them to switch, but not force them to do anything.

        I haven't used any Google frontends in years except for the occasional YouTube.

        @allaboutberlin @everton137

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        #38

        @gunchleoc @allaboutberlin @everton137

        Well there you go. You made a change by not using google services, therefor taking a bit of their power. 🙂

        Bit by bit, individual by individual, people will switch as long as other people make notice about it, untill the critical mass is reached and the corporate is powerless.

        And excactly that, is the goal of 'acting'.

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        • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

          The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth. His work trains the model. The model is replacing his site. There is no credit, clicks, or revenue. This is what the "enshittification" of the open web looks like in practice.

          Hard to imagine moving to Berlin without stumbling upon his guides at some point.

          https://allaboutberlin.com/

          https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicolasbouliane_ai-is-killing-all-about-berlin-when-you-share-7463188284924616705-I3Mn

          #AI #OpenKnowledge #Berlin #Google #Enshittification #OpenWeb #IndieWeb

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          #39
          @everton137 @allaboutberlin Why do we act like there is only one search engine?
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          • hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH hellomiakoda@pdx.social

            @everton137 @allaboutberlin Sooo.... when Google AI kills all the web.... the fuck the AI going to pull answers from?

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            #40

            @hellomiakoda @everton137 @allaboutberlin

            Exactly. Eating their own seed corn seems to be the new business model. I guess executives' the plan is to burn Google and jump clear on golden parachutes.

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            • schmaker@schmaker.euS schmaker@schmaker.eu
              @everton137 @allaboutberlin Why do we act like there is only one search engine?
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              #41

              @schmaker @everton137 @allaboutberlin I think it’s a combination of laziness and ignorance. It reminds me of the early days of the web (not the internet) where domain names were just bought up, because they thought (and the users did..) they’d just type an address to find what they wanted. Instead if people had to use search engines I think we’d have a different situation nowadays.

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              • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth. His work trains the model. The model is replacing his site. There is no credit, clicks, or revenue. This is what the "enshittification" of the open web looks like in practice.

                Hard to imagine moving to Berlin without stumbling upon his guides at some point.

                https://allaboutberlin.com/

                https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicolasbouliane_ai-is-killing-all-about-berlin-when-you-share-7463188284924616705-I3Mn

                #AI #OpenKnowledge #Berlin #Google #Enshittification #OpenWeb #IndieWeb

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                #42

                @everton137 @allaboutberlin
                It sounds like theft,
                it looks like theft,
                It takes money from one person like theft,
                It rots away the very base of itself like theft,
                How is this not just theft?

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                • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                  The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth. His work trains the model. The model is replacing his site. There is no credit, clicks, or revenue. This is what the "enshittification" of the open web looks like in practice.

                  Hard to imagine moving to Berlin without stumbling upon his guides at some point.

                  https://allaboutberlin.com/

                  https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicolasbouliane_ai-is-killing-all-about-berlin-when-you-share-7463188284924616705-I3Mn

                  #AI #OpenKnowledge #Berlin #Google #Enshittification #OpenWeb #IndieWeb

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                  #43

                  @everton137 This is so sad. This tech is anti-Web.

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                  • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                    The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth. His work trains the model. The model is replacing his site. There is no credit, clicks, or revenue. This is what the "enshittification" of the open web looks like in practice.

                    Hard to imagine moving to Berlin without stumbling upon his guides at some point.

                    https://allaboutberlin.com/

                    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicolasbouliane_ai-is-killing-all-about-berlin-when-you-share-7463188284924616705-I3Mn

                    #AI #OpenKnowledge #Berlin #Google #Enshittification #OpenWeb #IndieWeb

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                    #44

                    @everton137 @allaboutberlin It would be great if there was a type of search built into browsers that looked at the content from your chosen RSS sites first before using a centralized search.

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                    • everton137@social.vivaldi.netE everton137@social.vivaldi.net

                      The author of @allaboutberlin on how Google AI Overviews are killing independent web publishing, citing a 70% drop in traffic after seven years of steady growth. His work trains the model. The model is replacing his site. There is no credit, clicks, or revenue. This is what the "enshittification" of the open web looks like in practice.

                      Hard to imagine moving to Berlin without stumbling upon his guides at some point.

                      https://allaboutberlin.com/

                      https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicolasbouliane_ai-is-killing-all-about-berlin-when-you-share-7463188284924616705-I3Mn

                      #AI #OpenKnowledge #Berlin #Google #Enshittification #OpenWeb #IndieWeb

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                      #45

                      @everton137 @allaboutberlin truth be told in each paragraph the AI creates it also provides the source and if someone wants to read more it is possible to follow the link

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