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Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January?

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  • luca@sironi.xyzL luca@sironi.xyz

    @_elena

    I have a very partial view on #atmosphere based on bridged accounts.
    Of all the people I know reporting to being interested in this w thing, no one did effectively mentioned or tried #eurosky , that is already available and people can migrate to at no social cost.

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    #10

    @luca there is so much ignorance and misinformation around W Social. Nobody's fault except: journalists who didn't ask any questions and just ran with what the W founders told them...

    W totally copied many of the Eurosky concepts and then did a big launch at Davos that surprised the Eurosky folks.

    I didn't think they would get any traction (W) but with all the discussions about age verification for social media, I think they'll be around for a while - sigh

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    • michaelmathy@mastodon.onlineM michaelmathy@mastodon.online

      @_elena and big shortcut, by nobody, I mean me

      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @michaelmathy 😂

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

        #OpenWashing

        karlos@mindly.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @_elena
        „Issue no.1: How W Social ignored existing European initiatives“

        I would say: They ignored all non-commercial media. And mastodon = european? Mostly. But it doesn’t mather. „Es gibt keine Nationalstaaten mehr“ is a trent un SF shows 🙂
        #wsocial #raumpatrouille

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

          Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

          You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

          #OpenWashing

          jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @_elena great article! What I expect is that many ppl will just go for it! "It's European and screw it that they need my ID." The only issue is that I can theoretically create Bluesky account and still communicate with W social accounts. So what's the point of checking ppl if you can still enter through window if door requires an ID. Also I think Mastodon/Fediverse needs some lobby in EC and European parliament, that's something we can learn from W Chat case.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            @michaelmathy 😂

            michaelmathy@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @_elena what pissed me off even more is the kind of conversation I heard in a podcast (do not remember which one but a replay from a french radio show) where they said "it is really sad that no social network exists where we can have unfiltered posts and for which the business model is not driven by ads".

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            • michaelmathy@mastodon.onlineM michaelmathy@mastodon.online

              @_elena are you sure it is / was a hype ? To be honest, beside you, I never heard about W Social, at least from the people I follow, the news sites in my RSS reader, ...

              marcel@waldvogel.familyM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @michaelmathy @_elena
              It swapped over to several peeople around me, at least. But yes, not via RSS 😎

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Regarding my W Social exposé: it was months in the making and I could have written a LOT more, showing additional examples of technical blunders, but I kept it "brief" at 3500 words 😅

                I ran out of characters to tag all the awesome people I mentioned in the piece: @doktorzjivago (thanks for the top notch meme), @tom @mapache and @Em0nM4stodon

                And special thanks to people who volunteered to proof-read a draft and gave me fantastic feedback: @bitzero and @DataKnightmare

                It takes a village ❤️

                bitzero@corteximplant.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16
                @_elena @doktorzjivago @tom @mapache @Em0nM4stodon @DataKnightmare

                In this case: it takes some federated villages. Thank to you for the awesome inquiry.
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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Regarding my W Social exposé: it was months in the making and I could have written a LOT more, showing additional examples of technical blunders, but I kept it "brief" at 3500 words 😅

                  I ran out of characters to tag all the awesome people I mentioned in the piece: @doktorzjivago (thanks for the top notch meme), @tom @mapache and @Em0nM4stodon

                  And special thanks to people who volunteered to proof-read a draft and gave me fantastic feedback: @bitzero and @DataKnightmare

                  It takes a village ❤️

                  castrillo@mastodon.onlineC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @_elena wow, very nice post, Elena! You really nailed it 😆. I think in 2026, it’s pretty hard to sweep things like what you found under the rug. In the EU digital community—like we have on Mastodon—we sniff out things, kind of like opening Pandora’s boxes, much faster 👌

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                    #OpenWashing

                    thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.social
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                    #18

                    @_elena the worst thing about WSocial is that it's criminaly boring.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @MrLee someone back in January registered w-social.eu and created a website encouraging people to check out the Fediverse. Sadly it's offline now but you can still see it via the Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20260122071830/https://w-social.eu/

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                        #OpenWashing

                        keul@fosstodon.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @_elena great spelunking!

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                          Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                          You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                          #OpenWashing

                          gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de
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                          #21

                          This is a very good exposé, @_elena. And W Social like this looks like an (un-)intentional attempt to weaken the upcoming European digital sovereignty.

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                            Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                            You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                            https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                            #OpenWashing

                            atomictangerine@c.imA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #22

                            @_elena Never heard of W Social, but thank you for your critical analysis! What do you think about Eurosky?

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                            • gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.deG gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de

                              This is a very good exposé, @_elena. And W Social like this looks like an (un-)intentional attempt to weaken the upcoming European digital sovereignty.

                              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #23

                              @gelbphoenix thank you Lina! And I LOVED your post about Bluesky/ATproto and mention it all the time 🙂

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                @michaelmathy

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                                #24

                                @_elena honestly, looking at those sites, it seems W Social has investors behind it and has purchased press releases. And only then some real media picked up on it.

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                                • ee@mastodon.nlE ee@mastodon.nl

                                  @_elena honestly, looking at those sites, it seems W Social has investors behind it and has purchased press releases. And only then some real media picked up on it.

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                                  #25

                                  @ee 🎯🎯🎯

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    @ee 🎯🎯🎯

                                    ee@mastodon.nlE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #26

                                    @_elena seeing how gullible people on X are, though, is really something...

                                    https://xcancel.com/pubity/status/2014436220961423382

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                                    • ee@mastodon.nlE ee@mastodon.nl

                                      @_elena seeing how gullible people on X are, though, is really something...

                                      https://xcancel.com/pubity/status/2014436220961423382

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                                      #27

                                      @ee I know! 😤 I'm telling you, the first ten days there was ZERO fact-checking being done... and so this myth has kept circulating

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        @ee I know! 😤 I'm telling you, the first ten days there was ZERO fact-checking being done... and so this myth has kept circulating

                                        ee@mastodon.nlE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #28

                                        @_elena aaaaaargggggggghhh I'm sorry you had to go through that!

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                          Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                          You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                          #OpenWashing

                                          michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #29

                                          @_elena

                                          Après cinéaste et photographe, tu pourrais maintenant ajouter journaliste d'enquête.

                                          Merci pour cet article très fouillé et très recherché.

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