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  • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

    well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

    i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

    it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

    anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

    (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

    gabriel@fedi.gvisoc.comG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @molly0xfff this is insane. I am sorry to hear this.

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    • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

      well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

      i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

      it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

      anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

      (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

      fds@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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      fds@mastodon.social
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      #5

      @molly0xfff Feels weird to want to own that and not let everyone use the message freely.

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      • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

        well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

        i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

        it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

        anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

        (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

        scruss@xoxo.zoneS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @molly0xfff wow, ALA have a shit-tonne of trademarks

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        • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

          well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

          i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

          it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

          anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

          (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

          darryl_ramm@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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          darryl_ramm@hachyderm.io
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          #7

          @molly0xfff

          Freedom to Read Foundation can severely fuck off. Claiming 1st amendment importance in what they do they want to suppress other people's rights to express thoughts. What a bunch of tools.

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          • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

            well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

            i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

            it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

            anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

            (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

            rmondello@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @molly0xfff huge bummer 😞

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            • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

              well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

              i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

              it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

              anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

              (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

              c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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              c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
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              #9

              @molly0xfff apparently free people can also be dicks about sloganeering

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              • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                paneerakbari@mas.to
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                #10

                @molly0xfff that sounds like a minimally-contentious license-grant if I ever heard one
                The notice of infringement is likely automated boilerplate intended to combat exploitation, not stifle (or extract from) common cause

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                • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                  well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                  i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                  it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                  anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                  (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                  jessamyn@glammr.us
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                  #11

                  @molly0xfff NOT COOL of them. I know that part of having a trademark is that you (could) lose it if you don't defend it but still, geez, ironic and, again, not cool.

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                  • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                    well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                    i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                    it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                    anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                    (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                    phette23@digipres.club
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                    #12

                    @molly0xfff enforcing this feels very much against ALA's values, boosting as a librarian with librarian followers

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                    • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                      well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                      i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                      it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                      anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                      (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

                      molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
                      molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
                      molly0xfff@hachyderm.io
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #13

                      workshopping a new sticker

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                      • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                        well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                        i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                        it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                        anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                        (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

                        newstik@social.heise.deN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #14

                        @molly0xfff Did ALA complain about your stickers?

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                        • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                          workshopping a new sticker

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                          codingattempts@twit.social
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                          #15

                          @molly0xfff I would buy it.

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                          • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                            workshopping a new sticker

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                            #16

                            @molly0xfff I know that the point here is that ALA are kind of being jerkfaces about copyrighting a slogan like that, but if you wanted a replacement, I've always loved this panel from the comic Girl Genius and I'd hope the Foglios would be willing to work together on a product that used the phrasing or the art.

                            https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20160127

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                            • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

                              @molly0xfff NOT COOL of them. I know that part of having a trademark is that you (could) lose it if you don't defend it but still, geez, ironic and, again, not cool.

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                              #17

                              @jessamyn @molly0xfff Seems like it was not cool of some marketplace making sure it covered its ass. I bet a license to make use of the phrase could be obtained for a small share of the profits.

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                              • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                workshopping a new sticker

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                                #18

                                @molly0xfff
                                Read Freely, Free People

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                                • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                  well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                                  i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                                  it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                                  anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                                  (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

                                  fullywoolly@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  fullywoolly@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #19

                                  @molly0xfff or they could have just bought the stickers from you and sold them ...

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                                  • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                    well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                                    i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                                    it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                                    anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                                    (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                                    jmccyoung@mstdn.social
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                                    #20

                                    @molly0xfff I'm wearing the shirt as I write this!

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                                    • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                      workshopping a new sticker

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                                      #21

                                      @molly0xfff

                                      "Anarchy Now!"?

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                                      • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                        workshopping a new sticker

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                                        #22

                                        @molly0xfff “Peep Feeple, Freed Really”

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                                        • darryl_ramm@hachyderm.ioD darryl_ramm@hachyderm.io

                                          @molly0xfff

                                          Freedom to Read Foundation can severely fuck off. Claiming 1st amendment importance in what they do they want to suppress other people's rights to express thoughts. What a bunch of tools.

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                                          #23

                                          @molly0xfff

                                          And this whole thing smells like a crock of shit.

                                          "free people read freely" is a statement of fact. It really should not in any universe be trademarkable.

                                          The registration 7446426 application was filed on 2023-05-03. It claiming a first use in commerce/anywhere of January 01, 1999. A bullshit "we don't really know when" date.

                                          And more recently on Mar. 12, 2026 the fucktard foundation filed a USPTO application 99697593. "Amusingly" it is a supplemental filing for a plain word mark for use including on stickers.

                                          Oh could their legal weenies be out trying to suppress prior use on stickers?

                                          There appears to be an office action open for the fucktard foundation to reply to the USPTO to show proper use of the mark in trade in this new application. The publishing for opposition should happen after that is resolved.

                                          If this was me I'd have some fun filing an opposition to that when it is published.

                                          There are some nice threads here to be pulled by somebody wanting/able to. If only there was a foundation that promoted free speech and first amendment rights that could go after the fucktard Freedom to Read Foundation for their 1st amendments suppression. Maybe the EFF or Public Citizen Litigation Group are worth having a chat with.

                                          (non lawyer who has dealt with a good amount of trademark and other IP stuff. Edit to correct my missuse of trademark terminology)

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