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  • barubary@infosec.exchangeB barubary@infosec.exchange

    @libreoffice So why don't you enforce your "strict policy" on submissions? I went through some random LibreOffice core commits and found three that used LLMs. None of them actually followed this policy.

    desantis@mastodon.bida.imD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #34

    @barubary Exactly. When did saying “No” to something become so taboo? Especially when there are legitimate concerns about this “technology”? Grow spines, yall.

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    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

      Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

      Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

      antonius@phpc.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #35

      @libreoffice ai generation is slop. Shame on you

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      • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

        Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

        Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

        burningtyger@nrw.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #36

        @libreoffice Explaing every line requires another person to listen or read that explanation to every line which in turn could also be produced by ai. This is how it's done these days.

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        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

          Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

          Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

          laukidh@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #37

          @libreoffice but this is yet another lie. You have told us you accept slop, you’re just pretending it isn’t sloppy.

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          • solitarywalker@writing.exchangeS solitarywalker@writing.exchange

            @libreoffice I like this. The person submitting the change needs to understand it, in order to take responsibility for it. And it allows people to be honest about AI use instead of forcing them to hide it, which would be the effect of a ban. Good place to draw the line.

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            #38

            @solitarywalker @libreoffice or you could ban and shame liars when you catch them, that works too

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            • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

              Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

              Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

              usbtypesteve@infosec.exchangeU This user is from outside of this forum
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              #39

              @libreoffice If you say you don't use AI, you don't use AI. Period. You are using AI which directly contradicts what you previously said. Questions?

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              • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #40

                @libreoffice blocking your account because clearly all you’re doing is spreading misinformation now

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                • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                  Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                  Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                  piepants@famichiki.jpP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #41

                  @libreoffice I absolutely love when open source projects go on the defensive and twist themselves up like a pretzel over fucking semantics. You can't use "no slop" as a marketing stunt and then welcome it with open arms when it comes to submissions.

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                  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                    Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                    Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                    lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #42

                    @libreoffice anything coming out of genai is slop; regurgitated human creations

                    please don't burn the planet and devalue human creations

                    please ban all slop (which means all genai/llm)

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                    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                      Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                      Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                      efi@chitter.xyzE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #43

                      @libreoffice contributing to the destruction of the planet is not very libre

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                      • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                        @libreoffice anything coming out of genai is slop; regurgitated human creations

                        please don't burn the planet and devalue human creations

                        please ban all slop (which means all genai/llm)

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                        #44

                        @libreoffice please don't redefine "slop" to mean that some genai outputs somehow aren't slop. it's all slop, because it's soulless

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                        • piepants@famichiki.jpP piepants@famichiki.jp

                          @libreoffice I absolutely love when open source projects go on the defensive and twist themselves up like a pretzel over fucking semantics. You can't use "no slop" as a marketing stunt and then welcome it with open arms when it comes to submissions.

                          gornes@mastodon.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #45

                          @piepants Hello, I checked out your profile and thought I'd stop by and say hello. How's your day going?

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                          • gornes@mastodon.worldG gornes@mastodon.world

                            @piepants Hello, I checked out your profile and thought I'd stop by and say hello. How's your day going?

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                            #46

                            @Gornes Ha, no. You've got balls spamming an admin.

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                            • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                              Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                              Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                              #47
                              @libreoffice libreoffice is epic :3
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                              • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                                chasalin@mastodon.chasalin.nl
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                                #48

                                @libreoffice "skill atrophy and the risks of harm to cognitive abilities"

                                🤣🤣🤣

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                                • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                  Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                  Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                  scottytrees@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #49

                                  @libreoffice it’s OK, Libre office. I will still use you., virtual hugz 😘

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                                  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                    Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                    Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                    miles_leif@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #50

                                    @libreoffice but guys, EVERY changed line!!!

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                                    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                      Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                      Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                      sofiav@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #51

                                      @libreoffice this seems like it would be much harder to enforce in practice than a full-on ban

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                                      • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                        Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                        Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                        lucystokes1992@stopgenai.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #52

                                        @libreoffice you are awful pricks!

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                                        • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

                                          @libreoffice

                                          It strikes me as odd to ban all use of LLM for the _commit message_, but still allow its use for the actual _code_.

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                                          #53

                                          @skjeggtroll @libreoffice If I was any less staunchly against it in general, I'd do the opposite.

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