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  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

    Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

    Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

    burningtyger@nrw.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #36

    @libreoffice Explaing every line requires another person to listen or read that explanation to every line which in turn could also be produced by ai. This is how it's done these days.

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    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

      Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

      Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

      laukidh@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @libreoffice but this is yet another lie. You have told us you accept slop, you’re just pretending it isn’t sloppy.

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      • solitarywalker@writing.exchangeS solitarywalker@writing.exchange

        @libreoffice I like this. The person submitting the change needs to understand it, in order to take responsibility for it. And it allows people to be honest about AI use instead of forcing them to hide it, which would be the effect of a ban. Good place to draw the line.

        davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #38

        @solitarywalker @libreoffice or you could ban and shame liars when you catch them, that works too

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        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

          Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

          Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

          usbtypesteve@infosec.exchangeU This user is from outside of this forum
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          #39

          @libreoffice If you say you don't use AI, you don't use AI. Period. You are using AI which directly contradicts what you previously said. Questions?

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          • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

            Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

            Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

            cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #40

            @libreoffice blocking your account because clearly all you’re doing is spreading misinformation now

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            • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

              Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

              Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

              piepants@famichiki.jpP This user is from outside of this forum
              piepants@famichiki.jpP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              @libreoffice I absolutely love when open source projects go on the defensive and twist themselves up like a pretzel over fucking semantics. You can't use "no slop" as a marketing stunt and then welcome it with open arms when it comes to submissions.

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              • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
                lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #42

                @libreoffice anything coming out of genai is slop; regurgitated human creations

                please don't burn the planet and devalue human creations

                please ban all slop (which means all genai/llm)

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                • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                  Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                  Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                  efi@chitter.xyzE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #43

                  @libreoffice contributing to the destruction of the planet is not very libre

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                  • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                    @libreoffice anything coming out of genai is slop; regurgitated human creations

                    please don't burn the planet and devalue human creations

                    please ban all slop (which means all genai/llm)

                    lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #44

                    @libreoffice please don't redefine "slop" to mean that some genai outputs somehow aren't slop. it's all slop, because it's soulless

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                    • piepants@famichiki.jpP piepants@famichiki.jp

                      @libreoffice I absolutely love when open source projects go on the defensive and twist themselves up like a pretzel over fucking semantics. You can't use "no slop" as a marketing stunt and then welcome it with open arms when it comes to submissions.

                      gornes@mastodon.worldG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #45

                      @piepants Hello, I checked out your profile and thought I'd stop by and say hello. How's your day going?

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                      • gornes@mastodon.worldG gornes@mastodon.world

                        @piepants Hello, I checked out your profile and thought I'd stop by and say hello. How's your day going?

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                        #46

                        @Gornes Ha, no. You've got balls spamming an admin.

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                        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                          Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                          Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                          david@voidposter.clubD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #47
                          @libreoffice libreoffice is epic :3
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                          • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                            Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                            Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                            chasalin@mastodon.chasalin.nlC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            chasalin@mastodon.chasalin.nl
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                            #48

                            @libreoffice "skill atrophy and the risks of harm to cognitive abilities"

                            🤣🤣🤣

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                            • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                              Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                              Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                              scottytrees@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #49

                              @libreoffice it’s OK, Libre office. I will still use you., virtual hugz 😘

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                              • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                miles_leif@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #50

                                @libreoffice but guys, EVERY changed line!!!

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                                • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                  Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                  Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                  sofiav@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #51

                                  @libreoffice this seems like it would be much harder to enforce in practice than a full-on ban

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                                  • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                    Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                    Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                    lucystokes1992@stopgenai.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
                                    lucystokes1992@stopgenai.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #52

                                    @libreoffice you are awful pricks!

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                                    • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

                                      @libreoffice

                                      It strikes me as odd to ban all use of LLM for the _commit message_, but still allow its use for the actual _code_.

                                      kawa@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #53

                                      @skjeggtroll @libreoffice If I was any less staunchly against it in general, I'd do the opposite.

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                                      • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                        Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                        Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

                                        serena@lgbtqia.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #54

                                        @libreoffice Ah the old scare quotes around “slop” to show that you literally have no clue what your former users mean when we say AI slop. We mean the output of an LLM. Any output. That is the definition of AI slop. The stochastic data stream that LLMs output. Your “strict” policy strictly allows slop (stochastic output from LLMs) to be submitted by trying to redefine it as “not slop.” You can inspect the slop. You can review the slop. You can even pin a ribbon on the slop and put lipstick on it, but it is still slop. If it came from an LLM, it is slop.

                                        #NoSlop

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                                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                          @ciatmusings @libreoffice i am pretty sure this guy is just like this, and also i think it's the same one who floated LibreOffice doing blockchain a few years ago

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                                          #55

                                          @davidgerard @libreoffice like i hope he gets *something* substantial out of being the guy pelted by rotten produce for bootlicking gymnastics. minimum wage at least

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