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I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

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  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

    @Opticacia I don’t know if you know this but bacon is not a vegetable

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    #57

    @danirabbit
    Neither are eggs and milk.

    Of course, you could stick to strict definitions of vegetarianism or plant-based diets, I don't really see the imperative.

    I get this is a strange take, but from my perspective vegetarianism isn't so different from 'flexitarianism', in that they both lean on plants heavily but arbitraily include some animal products according to personal preference.

    But all that aside, veganism isn't (just) a diet and there's no half-measures, you either do it or you don't.

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    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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      #58

      @danirabbit Jeez of you can live without black pudding, surely bacon is just a rounding error? 🐈‍⬛

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      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

        I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

        People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

        So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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        #59

        @danirabbit Yeah, people are so black-and-white in their thinking. Including me often, although I fight against it.

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        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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          #60

          @danirabbit

          Example from my life:
          I'm generally pretty cook-from-scratch & environmentally conscious, but right now in this phase of life, using a few of those little instant microwave rice baggies per month makes a huge difference to my ability to navigate disaster capitalism and make a lunch me and the kid both enjoy.
          In a couple of years I'll go back to using the rice cooker, and I'm just not gonna beat myself up about it too much.

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          • bob_zim@infosec.exchangeB bob_zim@infosec.exchange

            @thomholwerda @danirabbit Longer lives and more space to roam actually makes meat *more* tasty, since the muscles get a chance to actually develop. It costs more because the livestock-feed-to-saleable-meat throughput of any given piece of land is much lower. One of the butchers I buy from (Porter Road) specifically pitches this as the reason higher prices are worth paying.

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            #61

            @bob_zim @thomholwerda @danirabbit Yeah, silvopasture or other regenerative pasturing isn't just *possible*, it's how nature evolved to keep sequestering carbon into gorgeous, vibrant, three-foot-deep soil for rich grasslands and scrublands. It also makes for happy grazers, often protected from predators, with medical care.

            It just doesn't produce huge amounts of meat and money per acre when people are habituated to prices that come of thinking of meat as "every meal, what living conditions" and not sacred, rare, festival food.

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            • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

              @danirabbit
              I'm getting there. Still got Android on this phone because it was cheap and there's no AOSP based OS for it. And still watch YouTube (via FreeTube) for entertainment.

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              #62

              @pthane @danirabbit Everyone's situation is different, and it will take more time and a more complicated path for some than for others. Also consider that these corporations intentionally work to lock us in to their products, and they make it as difficult as possible to leave. We can't blame ourselves for not being able to cut free all at once.

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              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                #63

                @danirabbit absolutely!

                "I have always held firmly to the thought that each one of us can do a little to bring some portion of misery to an end." ~ Albert Schweitzer

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                • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                  I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                  People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                  So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                  #64

                  @danirabbit
                  Agree on the bacon. I did start to make my own so I know what's in the cure and use very little pink salt (nitrates) but now I don't like others bacon haha

                  I usually do a salt/black pepper cure and smoke with apple wood.

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                  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                    I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                    People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                    So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                    #65

                    @danirabbit what's wrong with saying plant based or flexitarian?

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                    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                      #66

                      @danirabbit What a wonderful, thoughtful thread! Kudos, everyone.

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