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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    GREAT guess I'm not going to sleep tonight either. Maybe there will be auroras. I need to enjoy the night sky as much as I can now, I guess.

    Fuck you, FCC, for approving this. Fuck Reflect Orbital and all the copycats it's going to spawn. Fuck techbros everywhere. Fuck venture capitalists for funding this destructive, useless bullshit.

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    #38

    @sundogplanets I just hope some folks hack it and deorbit it!

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

      https://ca.pcmag.com/news/16760/fcc-approves-reflect-orbitals-giant-mirror-satellite-that-astronomers-hate

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      #39

      @sundogplanets wow that sucks total ass

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

        https://ca.pcmag.com/news/16760/fcc-approves-reflect-orbitals-giant-mirror-satellite-that-astronomers-hate

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        #40

        @sundogplanets

        What's wrong with everyone? Jesus.

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

          https://ca.pcmag.com/news/16760/fcc-approves-reflect-orbitals-giant-mirror-satellite-that-astronomers-hate

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          #41

          @sundogplanets destroying everyone's natural circadian rhythms for slightly better Q4 profits
          Surely this won't have any repercussions!

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

            https://ca.pcmag.com/news/16760/fcc-approves-reflect-orbitals-giant-mirror-satellite-that-astronomers-hate

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            #42

            @sundogplanets assume they are only licensed to reflect back to USA??

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

              https://ca.pcmag.com/news/16760/fcc-approves-reflect-orbitals-giant-mirror-satellite-that-astronomers-hate

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              #43

              @sundogplanets and of course it’s named after something from JRR Tolkien….

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              • iagondiscord@wetdry.worldI iagondiscord@wetdry.world

                @sundogplanets destroying everyone's natural circadian rhythms for slightly better Q4 profits
                Surely this won't have any repercussions!

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                #44

                @sundogplanets also, space is hard
                I would say it would be more practical to just put solar panels around the world and have them supply energy for the entire world, but that would actually require international cooperation and the geopolitical climate just isn't stable enough to handle that
                Three guesses on whose fault that is
                Point being, this is a perfectly logical idea if you're a liberal, and completely absurd if you aren't

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

                  https://ca.pcmag.com/news/16760/fcc-approves-reflect-orbitals-giant-mirror-satellite-that-astronomers-hate

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                  #45

                  @sundogplanets how the fuck is this under the fcc's purview?

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                  • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                    @sundogplanets 😡

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                    #46

                    @ai6yr @sundogplanets Look, man, it's only 50,000 mirrors each illuminating 3 mi of the planet's surface. Not like it would be disruptive to the environment or astronomy or culture or anything.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

                      https://ca.pcmag.com/news/16760/fcc-approves-reflect-orbitals-giant-mirror-satellite-that-astronomers-hate

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                      #47

                      @sundogplanets I would never endorse someone going full Contact on this thing's launch vehicle once fully stacked. That would be a terrible and illegal thing to do, and such a waste of life.

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                      • kkarhan@mastodon.socialK kkarhan@mastodon.social

                        @sundogplanets I just hope some folks hack it and deorbit it!

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                        #48

                        @kkarhan @sundogplanets or fry it with a focused beam of something it doesn't reflect

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                        • outfrost@mastodon.socialO outfrost@mastodon.social

                          @kkarhan @sundogplanets or fry it with a focused beam of something it doesn't reflect

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                          #49

                          @outfrost @sundogplanets this ain't the Space Satellite from #DieAnotherDay…

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMxVBY70dPU

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

                            https://ca.pcmag.com/news/16760/fcc-approves-reflect-orbitals-giant-mirror-satellite-that-astronomers-hate

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                            #50

                            @sundogplanets Ok, back of the napkin-style math time. According to NASA, the moon's surface area is roughly (rounded up) 40×10^6 km², or 40×10^12m². These sattelites are 18m×18m or roughly (rounded up) 400m^2. The moon only shows us half of it's surface area, which is half-illuminated on average (the actual amount of light we receive from the moon is a bit less than that due to the moon being present for less of the night when nearer to a full moon, but I'll ignore that for now). So we've got 40e12/40e1/2/2 or 2.5e10, unitless. If we assume the moon reflects 20% as well as those mirrors (this is generous towards the mirrors), we end up with 5e9, or five billion. That's approximately the amount of these mirrors we'd need to build to reflect as much light back to the earth as the moon. Due to the very approximate nature of these only the order of magnitude really matters, but it is still a ridiculous amount and not worth it. After all, adding a second moon to power solar panels would probably not give ROI within the lifespan of the sun.

                            What are they even trying to do???

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Want some reminders of how fucking terrible this idea is?

                              https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/true-cost-solar-power-night-reflect-orbital/

                              https://theconversation.com/a-us-startup-plans-to-deliver-sunlight-on-demand-after-dark-can-it-work-and-would-we-want-it-to-264323

                              https://darksky.org/news/organizational-statement-reflect-orbital/

                              Journalists: please write about how dangerous this is.

                              Lawyers (especially if you're based in the US): please help fight this, it will take legal action now

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                              #51

                              @sundogplanets most of the reporting focuses on the nighttime solar farm use case and misses the bigger plan

                              Reflect are marketing this to all kinds of customers:
                              - emergency responders (they're using the Venezuela earthquakes in particular as a talking point, to claim how beneficial this is to humanity in a way that makes opponents of the plan sound like assholes)
                              - industrial sites to allow nighttime work (pretty sure we've had work lighting for a while...)
                              - agricultural (possibly eke out some more crop growth? i'm sure there are no downsides to this)
                              - municipalities (quoting them, "replace streetlights, reduce light pollution" ...um, how exactly are you reducing light pollution by BEAMING IN THE SUN?!)
                              - defense (ah, here we go... rake in those government contracts, while cementing yourself as a critical military asset so no one can shut you down)
                              - festivals and events ("unforgettable nighttime experiences" except they're not really nighttime experiences if it's bright as shit, are they?)

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                              • beamsandbows@mastodon.sdf.orgB beamsandbows@mastodon.sdf.org

                                @sundogplanets can I just beat the unholy ribbons and bows out of today? I am so tired.

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                                #52

                                @BeamsAndBows am saving ‘beat the unholy ribbons and bows out of’. Yours? Or an actual extant saying? Either way: Brilliant.

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                                • pakowitsch@ruhr.socialP pakowitsch@ruhr.social

                                  @sundogplanets
                                  Mmhh, the Name oft the satellite is from Lord oft the rings. Is Peter Thiel involved in this shit?

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                                  #53

                                  @pakowitsch @sundogplanets taking bets on yes. If it’s bonkers and blind to any sense of environmental responsibility, odds are 1:10. Give it a name i’d have pulled outa my ass at 13, they go to even odds.

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                                  • 0x56@tech.lgbt0 0x56@tech.lgbt

                                    @sundogplanets most of the reporting focuses on the nighttime solar farm use case and misses the bigger plan

                                    Reflect are marketing this to all kinds of customers:
                                    - emergency responders (they're using the Venezuela earthquakes in particular as a talking point, to claim how beneficial this is to humanity in a way that makes opponents of the plan sound like assholes)
                                    - industrial sites to allow nighttime work (pretty sure we've had work lighting for a while...)
                                    - agricultural (possibly eke out some more crop growth? i'm sure there are no downsides to this)
                                    - municipalities (quoting them, "replace streetlights, reduce light pollution" ...um, how exactly are you reducing light pollution by BEAMING IN THE SUN?!)
                                    - defense (ah, here we go... rake in those government contracts, while cementing yourself as a critical military asset so no one can shut you down)
                                    - festivals and events ("unforgettable nighttime experiences" except they're not really nighttime experiences if it's bright as shit, are they?)

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                                    #54

                                    @sundogplanets i'm laughing through the nauseous pit in my stomach at this image from Reflect's own marketing copy

                                    "Illuminate [...] [?]ones and [...] missions."

                                    hey, woah *squints into the glare* i'm trying to read your ad here, it's too bright, could you dim the light a bit?

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                                    • iagondiscord@wetdry.worldI iagondiscord@wetdry.world

                                      @sundogplanets also, space is hard
                                      I would say it would be more practical to just put solar panels around the world and have them supply energy for the entire world, but that would actually require international cooperation and the geopolitical climate just isn't stable enough to handle that
                                      Three guesses on whose fault that is
                                      Point being, this is a perfectly logical idea if you're a liberal, and completely absurd if you aren't

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                                      #55

                                      @iagondiscord @sundogplanets uh… I read this like you think *liberalism* likes spacex, giant space solar mirrors, and etc. Or did your last ‘This’ intend to stretch out to ‘deploying solar panels on the ground’ vs. this=mirrors?

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                                        #56
                                        Ostensibly the agreement for satellite launch approval is if any of the governments approves it then it's approved, and the US always approves it.
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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

                                          https://ca.pcmag.com/news/16760/fcc-approves-reflect-orbitals-giant-mirror-satellite-that-astronomers-hate

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                                          #57

                                          @sundogplanets FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK NOOOOO

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