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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    @TimWardCam @twigpi "And also fuck you", he elaborated.

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    #48

    @jwz I've run an offline llm on my computer. I've programmed response logic for enemies in games and played chess and other games aganst a computer. I've used text and image recognition and benefitted from an image cropping tool guessing where I wanted to crop to.

    walruths@mastodon.socialW atax1a@infosec.exchangeA jwz@mastodon.socialJ tiredbun@akko.wtfT dngrs@chaos.socialD 5 Replies Last reply
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    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

      Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

      I had some cards printed up.

      These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

      Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
      https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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      #49

      @jwz

      i would rather talk to latter day saints than AI zealots. and i *hate* folks ringing my doorbell at 8am on Sunday.

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      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

        Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

        I had some cards printed up.

        These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

        Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
        https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

        haihappen@social.anoxinon.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #50

        @jwz *chef's kiss*

        Need to cook up some or my own that say things along the line of "if I ever had respect for you, that has past", or "you having goven me carte blance to rant about AI at you for 30 minutes straight", or "you sound gullible, and if you don't think AI is a bubble, I have some tulip bulb futures to srll you"

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        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

          Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

          I had some cards printed up.

          These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

          Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
          https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

          helgi@101010.plH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #51

          @jwz It's like demonizing MySQL app, maybe it runs at some datacenter, and it can do video editing too. It's actually not much useful application if you notice it just takes wiki pages and
          google links at face value.

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

            I had some cards printed up.

            These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

            Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
            https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

            uschiaachen@nrw.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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            #52

            @jwz Thank you!

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            • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

              @SDRHoernchen the card would be useful for people who arent worth arguing with like double digit IQ people but to say that not taking a hard stance against something makes you dumb or whatever like probably how some people here see me is weird. i hate ai as well, but there are unchangeable things that can be managed. what is the solution? destroy all copies of ai on the internet? destroy gguf files on everyones computer? copyright was broken anyway, finding some small use is ok.

              sdrhoernchen@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #53

              @curltoes I suspect quite a few people are overwhelmed by the whole topic which spans geopolitical questions, like superpowers pursuing nuclear weapons once did, to smaller scale but not less important question, like how am I going to earn any money if "AI takes over", so they just decide to hide behind their hands (or flashy cards) like a child. The one sure way not to shape any kind of policy...

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              • T twigpi@mastodon.social

                @jwz Probably should specify wtf you mean by ai.

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                #54

                @twigpi @jwz

                Asterisk

                All, in its totality.

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                • T twigpi@mastodon.social

                  @jwz I've run an offline llm on my computer. I've programmed response logic for enemies in games and played chess and other games aganst a computer. I've used text and image recognition and benefitted from an image cropping tool guessing where I wanted to crop to.

                  walruths@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #55

                  @twigpi @jwz

                  The demand for newer local models means the corporations behind them have to waste datacenter resources training them in the first place, just for chess, some memes and to crop images.

                  >that's ALL I use it for

                  Considering the planet is literally dying to train these models, that ain't a great flex.

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                  • T twigpi@mastodon.social

                    @jwz I've run an offline llm on my computer. I've programmed response logic for enemies in games and played chess and other games aganst a computer. I've used text and image recognition and benefitted from an image cropping tool guessing where I wanted to crop to.

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                    #56

                    @twigpi so... you're ignoring all of the problems with the technology, and trying to negotiate what level of harm to others that you find acceptable for your personal, selfish benefit? like the cards in the post say? gee

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                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                      Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                      I had some cards printed up.

                      These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                      Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                      https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

                      jimemichaels@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      jimemichaels@mastodon.social
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                      #57

                      @jwz Ai's are going to become the biggest waste ever. China will be making a box versions of them all within 20 years, when particle memory is achieved.

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                      • timsk@mastodon.socialT timsk@mastodon.social

                        @Eetschrijver @jwz vas-y, et n'oublie pas de partager s.t.p.

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                        #58

                        @timsk @jwz Bien sûr que non !

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                        • atax1a@infosec.exchangeA atax1a@infosec.exchange

                          @twigpi so... you're ignoring all of the problems with the technology, and trying to negotiate what level of harm to others that you find acceptable for your personal, selfish benefit? like the cards in the post say? gee

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                          #59

                          @atax1a Nope, just calling you out on your ignorance.

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                            I had some cards printed up.

                            These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                            Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                            https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

                            xyhhx@438punk.houseX This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #60

                            @uhhuhthem let's get some made

                            @jwz

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                            • T twigpi@mastodon.social

                              @atax1a Nope, just calling you out on your ignorance.

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                              #61

                              @twigpi ok slopbro

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                              • walruths@mastodon.socialW walruths@mastodon.social

                                @twigpi @jwz

                                The demand for newer local models means the corporations behind them have to waste datacenter resources training them in the first place, just for chess, some memes and to crop images.

                                >that's ALL I use it for

                                Considering the planet is literally dying to train these models, that ain't a great flex.

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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #62

                                @Walruths @jwz Yeah, that's not how ai works. Maybe learn what you're actually fighting for so you don't damage the cause by being an [!].

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                                • T twigpi@mastodon.social

                                  @jwz I've run an offline llm on my computer. I've programmed response logic for enemies in games and played chess and other games aganst a computer. I've used text and image recognition and benefitted from an image cropping tool guessing where I wanted to crop to.

                                  jwz@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #63

                                  @twigpi Can you point to the place in this post that made you think that I would be even remotely interested in this anecdote?

                                  *plonk*

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                                  • helgi@101010.plH helgi@101010.pl

                                    @jwz It's like demonizing MySQL app, maybe it runs at some datacenter, and it can do video editing too. It's actually not much useful application if you notice it just takes wiki pages and
                                    google links at face value.

                                    jwz@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #64

                                    @Helgi What the fuck is wrong with you? *plonk*

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                                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                      Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                                      I had some cards printed up.

                                      These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                                      Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                                      https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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                                      #65

                                      @jwz
                                      Propz 4 the text on these cards and 4 the sentiment that it expresses.

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                                      • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                                        @jwz i don't understand what your problem is with it i wasnt hostile towards you and you are just being mean for no reason

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                                        #66

                                        @curltoes @jwz I think you are woefully under familiar with jwz, and also, 'they already did the theft makes it ok' is a hell of a take.

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                                        • curltoes@mastodon.socialC curltoes@mastodon.social

                                          @SDRHoernchen the card would be useful for people who arent worth arguing with like double digit IQ people but to say that not taking a hard stance against something makes you dumb or whatever like probably how some people here see me is weird. i hate ai as well, but there are unchangeable things that can be managed. what is the solution? destroy all copies of ai on the internet? destroy gguf files on everyones computer? copyright was broken anyway, finding some small use is ok.

                                          mu@mastodon.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #67

                                          @curltoes @SDRHoernchen "these mass graves make for very flat ground, might as well put up apartments" is all I'm hearing.

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