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  3. I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

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  • danwentzel@urbanists.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

    This feels like a 1970 Kent State Univ. massacre moment.

    When enough white Americans turn against government authoritarianism/fascism, then things start to shift.

    We don’t need all the Trump/MAGA cultists to wake up — just enough white Americans to see this as their struggle too. It shouldn’t be this way, but that has been American history.

    goblingreg@mstdn.socialG gnoll110@ruby.socialG stefanejones@dice.campS thumper1964@mindly.socialT roybrander@urbanists.socialR 8 Replies Last reply
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    • danwentzel@urbanists.socialD danwentzel@urbanists.social

      I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

      This feels like a 1970 Kent State Univ. massacre moment.

      When enough white Americans turn against government authoritarianism/fascism, then things start to shift.

      We don’t need all the Trump/MAGA cultists to wake up — just enough white Americans to see this as their struggle too. It shouldn’t be this way, but that has been American history.

      goblingreg@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      @danwentzel Sad to say we're probably going to need a dozen or so more dead white women before that happens, and at least one of them will need to be heterosexual.

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      • danwentzel@urbanists.socialD danwentzel@urbanists.social

        I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

        This feels like a 1970 Kent State Univ. massacre moment.

        When enough white Americans turn against government authoritarianism/fascism, then things start to shift.

        We don’t need all the Trump/MAGA cultists to wake up — just enough white Americans to see this as their struggle too. It shouldn’t be this way, but that has been American history.

        gnoll110@ruby.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        @danwentzel

        Was just thinking about Kent State, last night.

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        • danwentzel@urbanists.socialD danwentzel@urbanists.social

          I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

          This feels like a 1970 Kent State Univ. massacre moment.

          When enough white Americans turn against government authoritarianism/fascism, then things start to shift.

          We don’t need all the Trump/MAGA cultists to wake up — just enough white Americans to see this as their struggle too. It shouldn’t be this way, but that has been American history.

          stefanejones@dice.campS This user is from outside of this forum
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          Relevant from Bluesky:

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          • danwentzel@urbanists.socialD danwentzel@urbanists.social

            I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

            This feels like a 1970 Kent State Univ. massacre moment.

            When enough white Americans turn against government authoritarianism/fascism, then things start to shift.

            We don’t need all the Trump/MAGA cultists to wake up — just enough white Americans to see this as their struggle too. It shouldn’t be this way, but that has been American history.

            thumper1964@mindly.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @danwentzel @JonChevreau I would like to think that we’ve hit a turning point. Only thing is, I thought we had hit one with the George Floyd protests, and most of the good that came out of those have been reversed. I guess the narrative just has to be continually hammered in, no letting up.

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            • danwentzel@urbanists.socialD danwentzel@urbanists.social

              I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

              This feels like a 1970 Kent State Univ. massacre moment.

              When enough white Americans turn against government authoritarianism/fascism, then things start to shift.

              We don’t need all the Trump/MAGA cultists to wake up — just enough white Americans to see this as their struggle too. It shouldn’t be this way, but that has been American history.

              roybrander@urbanists.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @danwentzel

              Eugene McCarthy said it would happen when coffins began to come back to even small towns.

              There's nothing outsiders can say. When even Canadians are suspicious foreigners, any outside comment only hurts the side it takes.

              The rest of the world has been wondering what would do it. I have no special faith in this event. I remember similar levels of comment after the bonesaw, and certainly after torture.

              But America 'looked forward not back', i.e. pretend "This is Fine".

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              • danwentzel@urbanists.socialD danwentzel@urbanists.social

                I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

                This feels like a 1970 Kent State Univ. massacre moment.

                When enough white Americans turn against government authoritarianism/fascism, then things start to shift.

                We don’t need all the Trump/MAGA cultists to wake up — just enough white Americans to see this as their struggle too. It shouldn’t be this way, but that has been American history.

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                @danwentzel the coming 2026 midterm elections will be a strong indicator. If the USA has woken up or if they intend to stay the course. The world will have to respond, only the pace will vary.

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                  @danwentzel @JonChevreau I would like to think that we’ve hit a turning point. Only thing is, I thought we had hit one with the George Floyd protests, and most of the good that came out of those have been reversed. I guess the narrative just has to be continually hammered in, no letting up.

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                  @Thumper1964 @danwentzel @JonChevreau there was never the follow-through. you need to actually purge these operations of the bad people. and if you can't, kill it. obama had eight years to abolish ICE. he didn't do it. he didn't even close guantanamo. crimes of the previous administration went unpunished and we're in the absolute downstream of that. there was no reconciliation, there was just the fucking nazis realising there were never any consequences.

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                  • danwentzel@urbanists.socialD danwentzel@urbanists.social

                    I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

                    This feels like a 1970 Kent State Univ. massacre moment.

                    When enough white Americans turn against government authoritarianism/fascism, then things start to shift.

                    We don’t need all the Trump/MAGA cultists to wake up — just enough white Americans to see this as their struggle too. It shouldn’t be this way, but that has been American history.

                    robo105@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @danwentzel Studies show that if you can get about 3.5% of the right people out on the streets in sustained and peaceful protests the regime will fall.

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                    • danwentzel@urbanists.socialD danwentzel@urbanists.social

                      I remember a history teacher saying, “when Iowa housewives turned against the Vietnam War, then it was inevitable we would end it.”

                      This feels like a 1970 Kent State Univ. massacre moment.

                      When enough white Americans turn against government authoritarianism/fascism, then things start to shift.

                      We don’t need all the Trump/MAGA cultists to wake up — just enough white Americans to see this as their struggle too. It shouldn’t be this way, but that has been American history.

                      izzychambers@social.vivaldi.netI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @danwentzel Neil Young's Ohio has been going thru my head for several days now.

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