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  • 0x0ddc0ffee@infosec.exchange0 0x0ddc0ffee@infosec.exchange

    @Natasha_Jay I suspect that one of the few applications where a heavily hallucinating LLM can outperform a human would be in replacing board members, C-suite executives, and their direct reports. I propose a longitudinal study with a control group of high level executives using real data, and experimental group using hallucinated, or maybe even totally random data filtered into plausible ranges, using executive compensation deltas as the metric.

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    #60

    @0x0ddc0ffee @Natasha_Jay I would LOVE to see the resultant shareholder suit over an AI board. There's a long list of duties they are required to perform. Seeing, for example, how the courts would deal with the duty of care or the business judgement rule. OK, the business judgement rule may be handled better by the AI, but... a shareholder would still have them on the duty of care.

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    • indigoviolet@tech.lgbtI indigoviolet@tech.lgbt

      @drahardja @Natasha_Jay I believe it’s supposed to be h*tt*ps

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      #61

      @indigoviolet I change it to hxxps when I want to link to a site that not everyone wants to visit.

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      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

        "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

        #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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        #62

        @Natasha_Jay what seemed crazy to me reading the comments on the reddit post is that so many answers were like "no you can't do it that way, you need to <bunch of extra, convoluted and unnecessary work> to use that tool properly in that context" and to me it's like ok so.....you have to jump through all those hoops to justify using a tool that doesn't actually make anything easier for you.....why? To look like you're following innovation? God I'm glad I no longer work anywhere remotely related to tech right now.

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        • greatbigtable@mastodon.socialG greatbigtable@mastodon.social

          @lxskllr more likely it will have similar results to that of the media industry who changed their entire industry based on fake data provided to them by Facebook.

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          #63

          @lxskllr @GreatBigTable meh, they've probably been fabricating data for the board long before generative AI hit the scene. The only difference is that now they have a scape goat.

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          • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

            @indigoviolet I change it to hxxps when I want to link to a site that not everyone wants to visit.

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            #64

            @drahardja@sfba.social @indigoviolet@tech.lgbt ...why? people can just... not click the link?

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            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

              "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

              #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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              #65

              @Natasha_Jay

              Someone who knows the systems MUST Proofread ¨everything" that your ai spits out at you.

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                #66

                @Natasha_Jay if you’re going along with the personification of a technological system, then I just don’t know what to tell that guy.

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                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                  "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                  #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                  #67

                  @Natasha_Jay How does anyone think LLMs base anything on facts or data? They are plausabiliy machines, designed to flood the zone.

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                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                    #68

                    @Natasha_Jay I don't understand how anybody can read the news about "AI" day after day and think "Oh everyone else's AI is fabricating random bullshit 24/7, but ours is fine".

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                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                      #69

                      @Natasha_Jay what? noooo! 😄

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                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                        "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                        #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                        #70

                        @Natasha_Jay (Maybe) Learning it the hard way. Well deserved.

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                        • lxskllr@mastodon.worldL lxskllr@mastodon.world

                          @Natasha_Jay

                          What would be amusing is them having greater success using bullshit data than whoever was previously correlating stuff :^D

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                          #71

                          @lxskllr @Natasha_Jay you mean this as a joke but as someone who worked with marketing data for a long time i wouldn't be surprised at all... the problem is that they are trying to predict outcomes of extremely complex processes from an incredibly limited data inputs. in the end it is mostly about how well you can bullshit your reasons for one or the other dilecision. and people will just never be as good as machines at certain things.

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                          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                            "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                            #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                            #72

                            @Natasha_Jay loll I guess they never tried giving it simple math problems before launching.

                            AI can't do numbers consistently.

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                            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                              "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                              #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                              #73

                              @Natasha_Jay

                              The only use of ai my company has successfully implemented is having it write emails to dead leads.

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                              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                #74

                                @Natasha_Jay Does AI Count Virtual Sheeps To Fall Sleep, an unknown work of Philip K Dick.

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                                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                  "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                  #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                  #75

                                  @Natasha_Jay

                                  ngl this stirred my loins

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                                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                    #76

                                    @Natasha_Jay

                                    The game of "passing the buck" on this one will be interesting. Hopefully those numbers are at least approximately correct.

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                                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                      #77

                                      @Natasha_Jay its not magic its a tool / if you don't understand marh, a scientific calculator does you no good / sounding like a bunch of boomers its 2026 yall / learn the tools before you deploy

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                                      • sodiboo@gaysex.cloudS sodiboo@gaysex.cloud

                                        @drahardja@sfba.social @indigoviolet@tech.lgbt ...why? people can just... not click the link?

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                                        #78

                                        @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet the reason I know of for breaking the link (by using hxxp) is when you don’t want to contribute referrer data to the linked site. Reddit doesn’t need to know we’re talking about them.

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                                        • maniaclives@mastodon.worldM maniaclives@mastodon.world

                                          @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet the reason I know of for breaking the link (by using hxxp) is when you don’t want to contribute referrer data to the linked site. Reddit doesn’t need to know we’re talking about them.

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                                          #79

                                          @maniaclives @sodiboo @indigoviolet Correct. Referrer attribution, plus it prevents your server (or your local machine) from pulling or showing a preview from the site.

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