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  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

    m1rk0@social.defcon42.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #70

    @Natasha_Jay (Maybe) Learning it the hard way. Well deserved.

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    • lxskllr@mastodon.worldL lxskllr@mastodon.world

      @Natasha_Jay

      What would be amusing is them having greater success using bullshit data than whoever was previously correlating stuff :^D

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      #71

      @lxskllr @Natasha_Jay you mean this as a joke but as someone who worked with marketing data for a long time i wouldn't be surprised at all... the problem is that they are trying to predict outcomes of extremely complex processes from an incredibly limited data inputs. in the end it is mostly about how well you can bullshit your reasons for one or the other dilecision. and people will just never be as good as machines at certain things.

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      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

        "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

        #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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        #72

        @Natasha_Jay loll I guess they never tried giving it simple math problems before launching.

        AI can't do numbers consistently.

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        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

          "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

          #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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          #73

          @Natasha_Jay

          The only use of ai my company has successfully implemented is having it write emails to dead leads.

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          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

            "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

            #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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            rikuylonen@mastodon.social
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            #74

            @Natasha_Jay Does AI Count Virtual Sheeps To Fall Sleep, an unknown work of Philip K Dick.

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            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

              "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

              #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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              #75

              @Natasha_Jay

              ngl this stirred my loins

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                simonzerafa@infosec.exchange
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                #76

                @Natasha_Jay

                The game of "passing the buck" on this one will be interesting. Hopefully those numbers are at least approximately correct.

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                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                  "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                  #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                  #77

                  @Natasha_Jay its not magic its a tool / if you don't understand marh, a scientific calculator does you no good / sounding like a bunch of boomers its 2026 yall / learn the tools before you deploy

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                  • sodiboo@gaysex.cloudS sodiboo@gaysex.cloud

                    @drahardja@sfba.social @indigoviolet@tech.lgbt ...why? people can just... not click the link?

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                    #78

                    @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet the reason I know of for breaking the link (by using hxxp) is when you don’t want to contribute referrer data to the linked site. Reddit doesn’t need to know we’re talking about them.

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                    • maniaclives@mastodon.worldM maniaclives@mastodon.world

                      @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet the reason I know of for breaking the link (by using hxxp) is when you don’t want to contribute referrer data to the linked site. Reddit doesn’t need to know we’re talking about them.

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                      #79

                      @maniaclives @sodiboo @indigoviolet Correct. Referrer attribution, plus it prevents your server (or your local machine) from pulling or showing a preview from the site.

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                      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                        @Natasha_Jay This part in the original post is fantastic:

                        “The worst part I raised concerns about needing validation in November and got told I was slowing down innovation.”

                        hxxps://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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                        #80

                        @drahardja @Natasha_Jay any idea why the moderators deleted the post?

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                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                          "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                          #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                          #81

                          @Natasha_Jay Saying it is hallucinating gives it too much intellectual credit. It is incapable of hallucinating. GenAI bullshits patterns into something that has a probability of looking like what was requested. A model doesn't know right or wrong. It doesn't understand anything. It doesn't think. It bullshits. This firm implemented a bullshitter that has no intelligence and are somehow surprised that it has been producing bullshit.

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                          • craigduncan@mastodon.auC craigduncan@mastodon.au

                            @Natasha_Jay

                            Source is here for anyone interested in it

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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                            #82

                            @craigduncan @Natasha_Jay post was removed by mods. here's a screenshot of the full text

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                            • stragu@mastodon.indie.hostS stragu@mastodon.indie.host

                              @drahardja @Natasha_Jay any idea why the moderators deleted the post?

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                              #83

                              @stragu @Natasha_Jay No idea.

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                              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                #84

                                @Natasha_Jay
                                LOLz🤣
                                When will people learn to not overly trust AI🙄

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                                • catbrainz@retro.pizzaC catbrainz@retro.pizza

                                  @Natasha_Jay what seemed crazy to me reading the comments on the reddit post is that so many answers were like "no you can't do it that way, you need to <bunch of extra, convoluted and unnecessary work> to use that tool properly in that context" and to me it's like ok so.....you have to jump through all those hoops to justify using a tool that doesn't actually make anything easier for you.....why? To look like you're following innovation? God I'm glad I no longer work anywhere remotely related to tech right now.

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                                  #85

                                  @catbrainz @Natasha_Jay did this post just get deleted? search isn't digging it up for me

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                                  • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                    @catbrainz @Natasha_Jay did this post just get deleted? search isn't digging it up for me

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                                    #86

                                    @catbrainz @Natasha_Jay ah. yes. here it is, deleted, although folks can read comments still apparently https://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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                                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                      #87

                                      @Natasha_Jay also an example of wise men not liking math. Tabulating data and doing calculations is too tedious. Give me a simple summary in English. I'll make snap judgements with the help of gut instincts or masculine intuition.

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                                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                        "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                        #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                        #88

                                        @Natasha_Jay A lot of people are of the opinion that AI is useful but you have to check the results. I get this at work all the time. This would be an argument for using it (not a particularly good one but still) if I didn’t know just how bad people are at checking and proof reading anything. Humans make errors all the time but the volume of errors is constrained by our output speed. AIs aren’t constrained so we have no hope of keeping up with their output to check it.

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                                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                          "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                          #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                          #89

                                          @Natasha_Jay how did they caught it by accident? Isn't that one of the first steps you do with data to check if it actually works?
                                          So they could have just hired some random who will throw dice and even that would be a more sound business decision because at least then you have someone who takes accountability?
                                          All these people worked with the data and not once did it click that the data doesn't align with their previous data?

                                          Something about AI makes people turn off their brain

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