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  • avian@mstdn.businessA avian@mstdn.business

    @neil yes, although that was also true of the old black slab....

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    #77

    @avian @neil
    I own a #fairphone and replace parts from time to time.

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

      2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

      2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

      ...

      2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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      #78
      @neil

      I did those things too! I loved PalmOS. - at the time. Not sure I would find it quite so satisfying now. It was so easy to develop for too.
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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        FWIW, I run @GrapheneOS on a Pixel.

        This will be my third GrapheneOS device.

        A genuinely excellent Android experience, with many years of support and security updates.

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        #79

        @neil @GrapheneOS I wish I could say I'd had that experience. I had two Pixels, and with both the battery lasted a year. Both had Graphene which I enjoyed. The next phone, a Fairphone 5 with Murena was also excellent, except the only part that isn't user serviceable (the main board) developed a fault. I bought it to try to escape the problems with battery life. Now I am miserably using an iPhone and swearing at it every other day!

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        • david@social.piconet.workD david@social.piconet.work

          @neil @GrapheneOS I wish I could say I'd had that experience. I had two Pixels, and with both the battery lasted a year. Both had Graphene which I enjoyed. The next phone, a Fairphone 5 with Murena was also excellent, except the only part that isn't user serviceable (the main board) developed a fault. I bought it to try to escape the problems with battery life. Now I am miserably using an iPhone and swearing at it every other day!

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          #80

          @david

          > the battery lasted a year

          That's a shame 😞

          Did Google not replace it?

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            @david

            > the battery lasted a year

            That's a shame 😞

            Did Google not replace it?

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            #81

            @neil As an autistic person I needed a quick replacement so I went out and bought another asap. I then recycled the phones with envirophone. Hopefully someone else had a better time with the phone when it was resold. I have a Nokia candybar around just in case my phone dies now. But sending a phone away for over a month (which was what I was quoted) just isn't a viable option for repairing such a vital device.

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            • david@social.piconet.workD david@social.piconet.work

              @neil As an autistic person I needed a quick replacement so I went out and bought another asap. I then recycled the phones with envirophone. Hopefully someone else had a better time with the phone when it was resold. I have a Nokia candybar around just in case my phone dies now. But sending a phone away for over a month (which was what I was quoted) just isn't a viable option for repairing such a vital device.

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              #82

              @david

              > sending a phone away for over a month (which was what I was quoted) just isn't a viable option for repairing such a vital device.

              Oh, wow, yes! I'd be in exactly the same position.

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                ...

                2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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                #83

                @neil Remembering that video of the guy in the Apple Store queue who didn't know which model he had in his pocket... 🙄

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  This is, of course, a daft mentality.

                  The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

                  It can also make and receive calls.

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                  #84

                  @neil "It can also make and receive calls." Well, nothing's perfect...

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    This is, of course, a daft mentality.

                    The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

                    It can also make and receive calls.

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                    #85

                    @neil Ahhh did you grab one in the sales then?

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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                      @HarryMutt 💚

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                      #86

                      @neil @HarryMutt@vivaldi.net troll or bot here I think Neil? 18mth on the platform and only 7 follows? blocked 👍

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        FWIW, I run @GrapheneOS on a Pixel.

                        This will be my third GrapheneOS device.

                        A genuinely excellent Android experience, with many years of support and security updates.

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                        #87

                        @neil @GrapheneOS My GOS powered Pixel Pro 6 is also coming to the end of its software life, despite still being a good solid reliable phone with plenty of battery life.
                        Next black slab will probably be a GOS powered Pixel Pro 9. Not new, new, but new to me.

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                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                          2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                          2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                          2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                          ...

                          2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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                          #88

                          @neil I am thinking about dumping the 'smartphone' tech platform entirely. A simple base phone and a tablet with an OS of my choosing would suit better.

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                          • feff@comicscamp.clubF feff@comicscamp.club

                            @neil Ahhh did you grab one in the sales then?

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                            #89

                            @feff I did 🙂

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                            • david@social.piconet.workD david@social.piconet.work

                              @neil @GrapheneOS I wish I could say I'd had that experience. I had two Pixels, and with both the battery lasted a year. Both had Graphene which I enjoyed. The next phone, a Fairphone 5 with Murena was also excellent, except the only part that isn't user serviceable (the main board) developed a fault. I bought it to try to escape the problems with battery life. Now I am miserably using an iPhone and swearing at it every other day!

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                              #90

                              @david @neil @GrapheneOS
                              I have a Fairphone with Android. I want to switch to Murena (in fact, would have liked to buy with it from the start), but I can't afford to break my existing setup to try it out.

                              I also have apps that I've paid for through the Play store and don't really want to give up or find alternatives. It's a bit of a bind. At some point I'll hopefully be able to afford a second hand device to try it out.

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                              • charlesshould@mastodon.onlineC charlesshould@mastodon.online

                                @avian @neil
                                I own a #fairphone and replace parts from time to time.

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                                #91

                                @CharlesShould @avian @neil I chose Fairphone after my old phone decay mostly because of replaceable parts. I want to keep this phone as long as possible, only changing batteries when necessary.

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                                • G gerardthornley@hachyderm.io

                                  @david @neil @GrapheneOS
                                  I have a Fairphone with Android. I want to switch to Murena (in fact, would have liked to buy with it from the start), but I can't afford to break my existing setup to try it out.

                                  I also have apps that I've paid for through the Play store and don't really want to give up or find alternatives. It's a bit of a bind. At some point I'll hopefully be able to afford a second hand device to try it out.

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                                  #92

                                  @GerardThornley @neil @GrapheneOS I bought my Fairphone with Android on it and managed to get Murena on it fairly easily. I was surprised actually how straightforward it was. Having said that, I have technical experience. You can put play store apps on the Murena E/OS too.

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                                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                    FWIW, I run @GrapheneOS on a Pixel.

                                    This will be my third GrapheneOS device.

                                    A genuinely excellent Android experience, with many years of support and security updates.

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                                    #93

                                    @neil @GrapheneOS
                                    In 1998 I was on my third PalmOS device (Palm III), which had a 3rd-party serial cable to get online with a GSM handset. And IR HotSync with other Palm devices. But I mostly did serial HotSync with a desktop.

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                                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                      2001: I have a new phone. How exciting! Perhaps I can access the Internet on it via a Sharp Zaurus. This is so the future!

                                      2002: Ooh! A new PalmOS device! Amazing! HotSync backup and off we go!

                                      2004: Wow! This WindowsMobile device has a keyboard, as is basically a mini laptop. Cool!

                                      ...

                                      2026: I must get a new black slab because security updates have run out on my current black slab which, for all other intents and purposes, is absolutely fine. The new black slab does nothing new for me, and all I see is the chore of setting it up.

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                                      #94

                                      @neil
                                      👌

                                      This comment is so good , it made me join this app.
                                      Hello , I am super black slab developer , looking to fix black slab OS and hardware extensions for government credit paper.

                                      OS is in beta in Dev , Need bigger PC and more noods , send more government debt notes .

                                      Gold payment accepted , no upgrades , means black slab is rock next year.

                                      Njoy and cheers

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                                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                        This is, of course, a daft mentality.

                                        The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

                                        It can also make and receive calls.

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                                        #95

                                        @neil
                                        ...aaand the extra compute is being used on surveillance, ads powered by said surveillance, unwanted LLMs, automatic corruption of the images captured by that great camera (see images of wildfire-choked skies being "corrected" from yellow to grey, for example)...

                                        Even with the death of Moore's Law, the general population would probably be seeing more benefit to the advancement of hardware if we weren't in a cyberpunk dystopia.

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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          This is, of course, a daft mentality.

                                          The new black slab is an incredibly powerful computer, with an all-day battery life, a great camera, and functionality which connects me to a world of friends and knowledge, for less than £500.

                                          It can also make and receive calls.

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                                          #96

                                          @neil

                                          Thats the same specs and advertisement as the last 5 years , and is not much diff from the windows mobile ,

                                          Im not impressed with black slab advertisements , written by other black slabs , for NPC's , the specs just arent much any different nowadays.

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