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When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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  • krazov@mstdn.socialK krazov@mstdn.social

    @felwert @aral On Mastodon, you can make a post "only for followers," and we're fine with it. I can imagine that a user can decide on his personal level not to share their post with the open web. That's their choice.

    (Though, the funny part is that it's more like a flag, and respecting it depends completely on the app, so if there is more traction for Bluesky, apps going around that might start popping up. Same for blocks.)

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    #14

    @Krazov @aral Sure, it’s their choice. I still find “has a Bluesky account” a weird scope for privacy.

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    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

      When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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      #15

      @aral and this is what it looks like to people who prevent their browser from even connecting to these platforms:

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

        May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

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        #16

        @_elena Of course 🙂

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        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

          When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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          #17

          @aral That’s why I post to micro.blog and then share a link to my post instead

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          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

            When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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            #18

            @aral This is what I've been trying to emphasise to friends who remain in walled-off corporate sites. It's also got to the point where Google's purchase of YouTube (which some of us have memory of) developed a monopoly on video, and now when I visit websites still using that to embed videos, I can't play any of them because I have to be signed in. (And I can't always be bothered to use front-ends etc and hey why should I)

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

              May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

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              #19

              @_elena
              Will you be present at https://www.fedivariety.org/unconference ?
              @aral

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                #20

                @aral
                Pro tip:
                Swap x.com for xcancel.com (including the rest of the URL) and it’ll load the tweet and replies without being logged in.

                The same thing works (with less reliability) by swapping instagram.com with imginn.com (again, keeping the rest of the URL).

                I use Apple Shortcuts to do these actions automatically:
                Twitter: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/06a82b30a77b4ba8834c85a28093c241
                Instagram: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/37da2bbbc7e341d2acb23c8dd73d0f14

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                • zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ zipkid@gts.solfood.be

                  @_elena
                  Will you be present at https://www.fedivariety.org/unconference ?
                  @aral

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                  #21

                  @zipkid @_elena I hadn’t heard of it but likely not, no. Funds are tight at the moment and I have to deliver on the Small Web this year (self imposed deadline).

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                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                    @_elena Of course 🙂

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                    #22

                    @aral @_elena transparency is a duty of public institutions and a right for citizens.

                    in Banrepcultural we decided to post what goes to rrss also in our website: https://www.banrepcultural.org/multimedia/dia-internacional-de-la-gaita

                    Hopefully we will be also in mastodon.

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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                      #23

                      @aral trash 🚮

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

                        May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

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                        #24

                        @_elena Personally, I would honestly rather see public institutions offering a variety of ways to access what they publish.

                        Including easily located full-text RSS feeds through platforms they control. (Minimal third parties in between them and the people who want to access the information.)

                        And yes, Fediverse and their own web sites.

                        @aral

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                        • zed@mstdn.partyZ zed@mstdn.party

                          @aral
                          Pro tip:
                          Swap x.com for xcancel.com (including the rest of the URL) and it’ll load the tweet and replies without being logged in.

                          The same thing works (with less reliability) by swapping instagram.com with imginn.com (again, keeping the rest of the URL).

                          I use Apple Shortcuts to do these actions automatically:
                          Twitter: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/06a82b30a77b4ba8834c85a28093c241
                          Instagram: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/37da2bbbc7e341d2acb23c8dd73d0f14

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                          #25

                          @zed @aral can also fix instagram embeds with gockinstagram.com

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                          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                            When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                            #26

                            @aral

                            Great stuff. If they post on there then I have to assume they don't want me to know what they have to say.
                            And I really don't like to see mirrors of their posts on Mastodon so they can shout and they don't see any replies.

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                            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                              When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                              #27

                              @aral Thank you for saying this Aral. I often wonder how to point out to folks who post links to exclusive platforms, that this excludes me. And anyone else who takes a stance and refuses to use those platforms...

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                              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                                #28

                                @aral it’s Schrödinger's content. If you login to view it, the quantum superposition collapses and you discover it either doesn’t exist, or that it wasn’t worth the effort because of the rest of the garbage on those platforms.

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                                • felwert@fedihum.orgF felwert@fedihum.org

                                  @Krazov @aral Sure, it’s their choice. I still find “has a Bluesky account” a weird scope for privacy.

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                                  #29

                                  @felwert @aral Seen alone, perhaps. The scenario I can see is this: they block people on Bluesky and by making their posts BS-only, they make sure that blockers cannot simply open a private tab and read them. A lot of visibility aspects on Mastodon were driven by these situations, too. That Bluesky allows only such a solution is not their fault.

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                                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                    When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                                    #30
                                    @aral yeah 😔 at least for X, there is nitter. Just replace x.com with nitter.net

                                    Don't know about Instagram and Facebook, but im sure there is some way to view anonymously
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                                    • dps910@social.freedombits.orgD dps910@social.freedombits.org
                                      @aral yeah 😔 at least for X, there is nitter. Just replace x.com with nitter.net

                                      Don't know about Instagram and Facebook, but im sure there is some way to view anonymously
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                                      #31
                                      @aral oh also for reddit since it likes to block vpns, there is redlib. various different instances, the one I like to use is redlib.privacyredirect.com 🙂
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                                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                        When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                                        #32

                                        @aral any business "website" that is just a Facebook page is an instant fail and no longer an option for me. Being pestered to create an account just check opening hours, what a great experience that is for new customers.

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                                        • elettrona@poliversity.itE elettrona@poliversity.it

                                          @Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh About paywalls I'm giving subscriptions systems more possibilities. We must think of it. Writing or creating videos genuinely, cost. So paywalls are a way to work. Then, yes, if you have a clickbait or misunderstandable/false abstract to force you to pay, that's called scam

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                                          #33

                                          @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh I fully agree that independent journalism requires financing that is independent from state or corporations.

                                          However, in my country for example, press codex states the duty of informing the public fully and truthful. Imho, the public includes such individuals that are less fortunate and not able to afford a subscription.

                                          50 years back, before digital publishing, printed newspapers could be evaluated without financial obligation... head articles at the least.

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