"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy not defending ai in any way, but i think that's two different concepts altogether.
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy For this metaphor I assume, that we not only go straight for the shower but do so fully clothed. We then walk soaking wet back into the gym to sit down and start bragging about the sets we did today – runing not only our chances to achieve anything but the day of anyone, who is really into fitness, too. We then proceed to eat everything but our sandwich out of the bin and hope for the “less productive people“ to fix all the mess we made.
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@Garwboy using AI do to your work is like lifting weight with a fork lift in the gin to get results faster
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy This seems the basic sales line for most technology over the past few million years.
No time for the gym? Get a computer to do boring and tedious stuff in a flash!
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@Garwboy it is baffling how the AI boosters miss the point at every chance they get. As if "the essay" was the point of writing.
Getting good at things is bad, actually
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
But you've still actually made your own sandwiches.
AI is more like:
"And if I steal somebody else's sandwiches, I can prepare my lunch in under 10 seconds."
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy AI is to writing what those meal replacement powders (like Soylent, etc) are to food: yes, technically you can live off that, and it’s faster and “more convenient”, but trust me, you don’t want that shit to replace your food. It will mess your stomach, take away your will to live and make you question your decisions (and you’ll never crave real food more than after a while with it). Yeah… no, thanks.
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy For me the joy is the workout or development process
Muscles or a app or game are just by products
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy Somebody told me that "creating code is a solved problem" now - that is like saying "logistics is a solved problem" - someone has just to drive the trucks around.
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@Garwboy not defending ai in any way, but i think that's two different concepts altogether.
@EvelynOctavia @Garwboy This is generally in reference to school essays where doing the work of transforming knowledge and research into a well formatted argument is the entire point. Taking that raw information and letting an LLM spit out an essay entirely circumvents the learning process. The teacher doesn't care about the essays, they aren't worth anything, they're going to be bad.
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
I was thinking more of a gym where the exercise machines would all have little electric motors on them to do the exercises very quickly and without any effort.
And in taking the lunch by parenteral without ever ceasing to work.
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy The question is always what the task is and what the outcome is.
Usually the task isn't "Write an essay" but "Understand topic X and to show me that you do understand it, write down your thoughts on it"...
AI can perfectly write down *some* thoughts on it and provide a good outcome in 15 minutes (or even less).
But you still didn't solve the task as you still don't understand X.
The analogy with using a forklift to lift weights captures that nicely!
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy but I don't like writing essays, but I do like receiving 10 and pass exams.
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy Whoever lets Ai write an essay is too dumb to grasp the meaning of the word essay.
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
Hey, you know what *did* take ages to write, and used 0% AI? My various books
https://www.hive.co.uk/search/keyword?keyword=dean%20burnett&productType=0
They've been nicked and used to train various AI engines, and cost me a lot of earnings in the process, so if you like your info 'direct from source', please consider purchasing one.
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy I don't agree with this analogy, because it's equating speeding up a task with skipping it entirely.
With AI, you're not skipping a task. You're finishing it up faster, but depending on how you use it, you're not improving or gaining anything of substance, so in the end you might learn basically nothing and you end up with code or stuff that barely works, or that breaks in some way the LLM hasn't foreseen, or has only added a stub function with a // todo and a console print that mentions said function was ran successfully, giving the impression that the agent did in fact fully code everything.
Vibe coders or people with no knowledge of a subject, that just get to their desk, open ChatGPT, Claude, Grok and ask them to do a task entirely without having clear goals, steps, research in mind:
if you immediately go for a shower at the gym you haven't worked out. A better analogy would be that you go to the gym and lift weights very quickly, which doesn't really help you build muscle because there's less tension and resistance. You're just flailing around your arms with weights, etc.
If you want to finish your lunch faster you'd soak the sandwich in coffee, tea, water, and then scarf it down.
Is this a fast way to work out and to eat? Sure, but you won't really gain muscle, nor will you feel satiated from a soaked up sandwich.
Experienced developers that already know the ins and outs of stuff that just want to speed up some of the more menial tasks (e.g. populating a lot of JSON by hand) or use LLMs as a copilot, a second set of 'eyes', etc:
If you already have research material, or you know what you need to do but you'd like to do it ever so slightly faster, there are ways to achieve that.
You could research what machines and workouts help you gain muscle more efficiently. A barbell squat rack would be better than a Smith machine because a squat rack allows for free movement, which engages more stabilizer muscles vs a Smith machine which has a fixed bar path.
Eat a sandwich faster? Cut the crust, take a bite and then a small sip of a drink, use a panini press (a sandwich maker) to make it thinner, use thinner and softer bread, chop and spread the filling more evenly instead of creating bulky layers of meat, cheese, lettuce, etc.
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
Yep. That’s a thing many people are not willing to understand:
"Help me" is not the same as "Do it for me".
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy But your shower and sandwich, combined at the level of power they can, pales in comparison to the aggregate power of tech bros databases combined. And your small effects, intimately integrated into root vital infrastructure, worldwide, can't destabilize enough people toward ultimate Capitalism profits, tech bros or otherwise.
It's 'nerd grift', at such a scale that it could put us all back in caves, while they enjoy luxury bunkers.
Remove them from power, along with the fossil fuels oligarchy. Crony politicians are next.
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"By using AI, tasks like essays that used to take hours can be completed in minutes!"
Sure, like how if I arrive at the gym and immediately go for a shower, my workout is done in record time. And if I throw my sandwiches straight in the bin, I can finish my lunch in under 10 seconds.
@Garwboy [hungry goblin that lives in your trash can] thank you for optimizing
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@Garwboy If you throw them straight into the bin, the sandwich chef can also use inedible ingredients, saving even more time and money. If you throw it next to the bin instead of into it, the bin doesn't need emptying, saving even more!
