Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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@afewbugs @nextcloud I'm not entirely sure what nextcloud is? but I use todoist for my recurring tasks and it works perfectly, also telegram recently added the ability to schedule a recurring message, and as I also use telegram in my household for to do lists that has also been invaluable
@wolfie thank you! I'm actually using Todoist at the moment, but looking into European alternatives wherever possible and as I'm already using NextCloud for file management I thought I'd take a look at their task manager and see if it was a workable alternative. Looks like it isn't though as probably at least half of what I use it for is recurring tasks
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@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.
However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.
Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.
@ljrk I use Todoist which works really well, but as I'm looking at European alternatives and already use NextCloud for file storage I thought I'd take a look at their task manager
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@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.
However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.
Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.
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@ljrk I use Todoist which works really well, but as I'm looking at European alternatives and already use NextCloud for file storage I thought I'd take a look at their task manager
cron can probably do everything we need, yesno?
lemmas: cron is nearly a language itself
cron was written by maintainers
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If you build a task manager without the facility to do recurring tasks that tells me a) you're not the one doing the recurring maintenance tasks and b) you either don't recognise the importance of maintenance tasks or you haven't even noticed that they're being done around you to allow you to do the big one off production of a European open source task manager, say.
Come on, it's 2026. Do better men. And it is mostly men.
Sometimes a bunch of men get away from all the boring women and discover there are still dishes!
Thus arises class, caste, military rank…
(joking not joking)
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
And my favorite subtle recurrence, a reminder $timespan after each completion.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs An excellent thread. Somehow women never seem to fail to know (e.g.,) how to use a washing machine whereas a great many men struggle. The "emotional work" of organising a household (and keeping track, making sure children get to school, that appointments aren't missed and that they are fed and clothed is most definitely work). I am fortunate to have a son in whose household he does all of that (and works from home) while his wife works elsewhere.
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I didn't find a way that I liked to do recurring tasks in NextCloud. I use Superproductivity now. That one has the benefit that recurring tasks don't just recur, they pile up. The next task doesn't simply replace the previous one.
For an ADHD chaos goblin like me, it's handy to see yesterday's "water plants" and "gym" alongside today's "dust hallway" and "gym". I'm nothing if not flaky on bad days. With the "pile" I can remember to do the things on good days.
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I didn't find a way that I liked to do recurring tasks in NextCloud. I use Superproductivity now. That one has the benefit that recurring tasks don't just recur, they pile up. The next task doesn't simply replace the previous one.
For an ADHD chaos goblin like me, it's handy to see yesterday's "water plants" and "gym" alongside today's "dust hallway" and "gym". I'm nothing if not flaky on bad days. With the "pile" I can remember to do the things on good days.
I can also get a nudge that something is wrong if I see multiple self-care tasks piling up.
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So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes
@afewbugs Aye, indeed.
And so have all of us.
Any male person denying this observation is being dishonest with someone, quite likely starting with himself.
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I can also get a nudge that something is wrong if I see multiple self-care tasks piling up.
Also, here's the source
https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity
It's on GitHub, but nobody's perfect.
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@mkj @dashdsrdash @afewbugs and it sounds like since the calendar app already handles this, maybe adding it to the task app would mean "just" sharing the code?
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs thank you for posting this. It never even occurred to me that it might not support recurring tasks, since nextcloud in general seems to have the basics covered. I've been adding new one off tasks there as a precursor to moving everything there. Guess I won't be doing that
@RadtkeJCJ -
God that's depressing. I have half finished projects like that, but I also need recurring reminders to drink water, so I am not allowed even temporary use of the typical label.
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God that's depressing. I have half finished projects like that, but I also need recurring reminders to drink water, so I am not allowed even temporary use of the typical label.
Huh... I wonder if they support bounties or something similar?
As in, an user puts up (monetary) bounty to get this fixed/added - and anyone can pick it up and get it done?
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@Aprazeth @cratermoon @afewbugs
That might work for a big project like NC. For me, as soon I found https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity I mentally tagged the problem as solved, and haven't been able to summon any energy to replicate the solution over at NC.
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Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now
@afewbugs I've just read a very similar article, but from 1910. Very sad that we didn't progress much (I mean, men).
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@Aprazeth @cratermoon @afewbugs
That might work for a big project like NC. For me, as soon I found https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity I mentally tagged the problem as solved, and haven't been able to summon any energy to replicate the solution over at NC.
Thank you, I quickly perused it, and that looks quite nice. Added it to the backlog to check later
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@afewbugs looks at the local repair cafe and who runs the front desk and who runs the tea counter... Yep checks out
Also this recurring task/meeting/event functionality is *already* standard in Outlook/MS365 for some time.
Its been an open issue since *2017*, apparently 2 weeks ago there is some pull request to add the function still awaiting merging (I don't know how long this process takes before it ends up in the main software, but someone was testing it as recently as 2 days ago)
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@afewbugs i think to a certain extent it's just *easier* to make a task manager that only handles one-off tasks. a lot easier.
which is to say, there may (only may) be no misogeny here, just a complete lack of ability to actually *define* the problem before they try to solve it…
@fishidwardrobe @afewbugs
The misogyny is structural. It's systemic. And the people building the structure should look at what it does
