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  • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

    📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

    The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

    A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

    https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

    aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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    aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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    #37

    @tg one thing that's a little different between 2006 and 2026 is if you try to host something yourself a lot more people and god knows what else are constantly attempting to break in and knock your site over. i tried running a phpbb forum a while back and eventually it got hacked and overrun with spam and it was so bad my hosting provider called me on the telephone to work out what to do about it. i've been afraid to host anything more complicated than a static serve site ever since 😕

    ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA karbin@meow.socialK crittero@mastodon.socialC 4 Replies Last reply
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    • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @tg one thing that's a little different between 2006 and 2026 is if you try to host something yourself a lot more people and god knows what else are constantly attempting to break in and knock your site over. i tried running a phpbb forum a while back and eventually it got hacked and overrun with spam and it was so bad my hosting provider called me on the telephone to work out what to do about it. i've been afraid to host anything more complicated than a static serve site ever since 😕

      ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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      ireneista@adhd.irenes.space
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      #38

      @aeva @tg yeah there's a reason the first thing we figured out for our own infra was the SSO...

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      • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

        @tg one thing that's a little different between 2006 and 2026 is if you try to host something yourself a lot more people and god knows what else are constantly attempting to break in and knock your site over. i tried running a phpbb forum a while back and eventually it got hacked and overrun with spam and it was so bad my hosting provider called me on the telephone to work out what to do about it. i've been afraid to host anything more complicated than a static serve site ever since 😕

        aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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        aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place
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        #39

        @tg i've been wanting to host my own icecast server or peer tube, but idk how to be sure that won't just happen again

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        • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

          📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

          The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

          A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

          https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

          spinni81@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #40

          @tg Now I feel old because the Internet I grew up on is the old rusty bits.

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          • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

            📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

            The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

            A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

            https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

            virkon42@det.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #41

            @tg this is so true. love your view.

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            • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @tg i've been wanting to host my own icecast server or peer tube, but idk how to be sure that won't just happen again

              yuvalne@433.worldY This user is from outside of this forum
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              #42

              @aeva @tg
              yeah, in the age of DDoS by AI and rising hosting costs, quite a lot of the boring internet is also dying.
              although i guess dying gives the wrong implication. it's being killed.

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              • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @tg one thing that's a little different between 2006 and 2026 is if you try to host something yourself a lot more people and god knows what else are constantly attempting to break in and knock your site over. i tried running a phpbb forum a while back and eventually it got hacked and overrun with spam and it was so bad my hosting provider called me on the telephone to work out what to do about it. i've been afraid to host anything more complicated than a static serve site ever since 😕

                karbin@meow.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #43

                @aeva @tg it is true. But that was the result of server applications written to be managed by large groups.

                there is a lack of web infrastructure written to be secure as a priority. In your case something like OpenBSD for forum systems.

                This plus tight security rules and new sandboxed and controlled installations could be what we need

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                • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

                  @aeva @tg yeah there's a reason the first thing we figured out for our own infra was the SSO...

                  cthos@mastodon.cthos.devC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #44

                  @ireneista @aeva @tg DID SOMEONE SAY SSO????

                  (sorry sorry, it's like catnip for me)

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                  • cthos@mastodon.cthos.devC cthos@mastodon.cthos.dev

                    @ireneista @aeva @tg DID SOMEONE SAY SSO????

                    (sorry sorry, it's like catnip for me)

                    ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #45

                    @cthos @aeva @tg Authelia with hardware tokens :3

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                    • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                      📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                      The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                      A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                      https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                      virkon42@det.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #46

                      @tg I am really glad, that there is the ascii view. I pretty much hate this animation.

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                      • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                        📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                        The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                        A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                        https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                        botolo86@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #47

                        @tg you forgot the BBS systems. Some of them are still there and quite active.

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                        • N nickchomey@mastodon.social

                          @tg @ska

                          I don't think a colon fits at all. Comma perhaps. My hyphen-as-em dash seems to be the appropriate way to handle it - at least that's what I'll continue doing.

                          An example (picked at random) of how my style differs (and not saying that you should change anything)

                          > This is the old machinery. Not pure. Not beautiful. Not easy to use.

                          This is the old machinery: not pure, beautiful or easy to use.

                          No idea which is more correct or effective. But yours just reeks of LLM, even if it isn't

                          janeishly@beige.partyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #48

                          @nickchomey @tg @ska You could always use the UK English style instead, which is a spaced en dash (Alt+0150). As a translator, that's what I now default to (having been told in no uncertain terms when I submitted one of my very first projects that my previous habit, of using hyphens, was unacceptable!)

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                          • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                            📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                            The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                            A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                            https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                            naturtrueb@norden.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            naturtrueb@norden.social
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                            #49

                            @tg Just sent a note to myself for later use of your text - by e-mail. 😉

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                            • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                              📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                              The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                              A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                              https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                              jake4480@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              jake4480@c.im
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                              #50

                              @tg HELL yes. Been working on a piece about this myself, collecting up articles and such for it, like this one! Great piece - 💯

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                              • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                @ska I've done some general reading on how they write. you can't do reversals (not this, that!) and you can't use triads (this, other, thing). And we all know you can't use em-dashes even though my natural style is to use all of those because I think they're effective. sigh

                                karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #51

                                @tg @ska Not this that is my fav there - the tell is that llms do it randomly without any reason to think or talk about "this" while people use it in context of a larger discourse to differentiate and navigate reader expectations.

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                                • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                  📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                  The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                  A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                  https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

                                  hoi_pollois@toad.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #52

                                  @tg So nice. Thanks for this.

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                                  • hinnerk@mastodon.socialH hinnerk@mastodon.social

                                    @tg @johl The internet I grew up on was ftp, finger, gopher, usenet and telnet. No one sane would allow someone to use any of that to access something in 2026.

                                    fasnix@fe.disroot.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #53
                                    @Hinnerk
                                    Isn't that why gemini:// nowadays exists?

                                    @tg @johl
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                                    • fasnix@fe.disroot.orgF fasnix@fe.disroot.org
                                      @Hinnerk
                                      Isn't that why gemini:// nowadays exists?

                                      @tg @johl
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                                      #54

                                      @fasnix @tg @johl Wich comes with a trunk of security issues on it‘s own. Biggest question: Does it only exist or will it also be used?

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                                      • hinnerk@mastodon.socialH hinnerk@mastodon.social

                                        @fasnix @tg @johl Wich comes with a trunk of security issues on it‘s own. Biggest question: Does it only exist or will it also be used?

                                        fasnix@fe.disroot.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        fasnix@fe.disroot.org
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                                        #55
                                        @Hinnerk
                                        I'm not a technician or programmer, that's why I have to ask what kind of security issues it has?

                                        As far as I can tell, it is being used, however very niche.
                                        (I love that I can read the TAZ on it every day.)

                                        @tg @johl
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                                        • tg@indieweb.socialT tg@indieweb.social

                                          📢 New Essay: The Boring Internet

                                          The internet you grew up on isn’t dying.

                                          A commercial veneer glued on top of it is.

                                          https://www.terrygodier.com/the-boring-internet

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                                          #56

                                          @tg Wonderfully written. Thank you!

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