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  • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

    *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

    All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

    My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

    Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

    I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

    craigmorgan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
    craigmorgan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #107

    @CorvidCrone anybody who worked with DEC manual/docsets for software will second this ...

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    • fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF fragarach@social.vivaldi.net

      @CorvidCrone
      Once upon a time I worked for a European electronics company. My bit was a specific area of medical software. They employed a team of technical writers for the user manuals. I didn't appreciate at first just how good the manuals were until I was training a physician with whom I had no common language. In the manual, Chapter 8, section 33.5.8 was exactly the same point in the workflow, explaining the objective of what I wanted to demonstrate.
      And the index was an absolute joy to use.

      They've probably moved on to using an LLM to write them now 😬

      roundtrip@federate.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
      roundtrip@federate.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #108

      @Fragarach @CorvidCrone
      Yes! A well authored index is much more that a printed replacement for search. It rewards browsing as much as lookup.

      One full pass through a good index give you an idea of what a book/paper contains and confidence that you can go back to the index to refresh your memory.

      It can even be funny — like Kimbote’s index to ‘Pale Fire’

      This seems ok:
      https://www.litcharts.com/lit/pale-fire/the-index

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      • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

        *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

        All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

        My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

        Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

        I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

        bekopharm@indieweb.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
        bekopharm@indieweb.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #109

        @CorvidCrone as a programmer I want ~~to be grabbed by the cheeks~~ such manuals too.

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        • dequbed@mastodon.chaosfield.atD dequbed@mastodon.chaosfield.at

          @CorvidCrone I miss the time when software came with manuals fit for knocking out your manager in case he gave you shit for still reading through the War-and-Peace-sized manual

          timwardcam@c.imT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #110

          @dequbed @CorvidCrone Microsoft C 7 (IIRC) came in a box a couple of feet long filled with books (a complete set of documentation for Windows development). And a few floppy disks tacked on at the end.

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          • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

            *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

            All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

            My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

            Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

            I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

            bluedot@left-bank.netB This user is from outside of this forum
            bluedot@left-bank.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #111

            @CorvidCrone

            How am I supposed to RTFM if they won't give me the F M?

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            • bluedot@left-bank.netB bluedot@left-bank.net

              @CorvidCrone

              How am I supposed to RTFM if they won't give me the F M?

              corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              corvidcrone@kolektiva.social
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              #112

              @BlueDot exactly!

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              • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                rjayne_n@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
                rjayne_n@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
                rjayne_n@wandering.shop
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                #113

                @CorvidCrone I, a tech writer, want to WRITE the instructional manual for someone. Really.
                Why should your users have a "help chatbot" jumping and swirling in the bottom corner of your screen while you type?

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                • rjayne_n@wandering.shopR rjayne_n@wandering.shop

                  @CorvidCrone I, a tech writer, want to WRITE the instructional manual for someone. Really.
                  Why should your users have a "help chatbot" jumping and swirling in the bottom corner of your screen while you type?

                  corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #114

                  @Rjayne_n and the chatbot always pops up over whatever you're looking at

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                  • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                    *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                    All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                    My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                    Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                    I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                    gandalfdg@indieweb.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #115

                    @CorvidCrone This is how I felt trying to get any sort of idea what the hell a "databricks" is

                    as far as I can tell it's some sort of marketing website that allegedly can do things with data but without some sort of training I don't think I'll ever really know.

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                    • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                      @Rjayne_n and the chatbot always pops up over whatever you're looking at

                      rjayne_n@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #116

                      @CorvidCrone Yes it does. Sigh.
                      Normally saying "hey are you looking for something?"

                      ... normally it's the button to turn it off.

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                      • stairjoke@indieweb.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #117

                        @Kay Updates shouldn’t break the existing features. changing existing features should be rare, because it breaks learned behaviours. Having to update the manual might be friction enough to save us from ever changing UIs.

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                        • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                          *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                          All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                          My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                          Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                          I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                          stairjoke@indieweb.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                          stairjoke@indieweb.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                          stairjoke@indieweb.social
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                          #118

                          @CorvidCrone The manual should include pictures, like the toolbar icon to click, and images that make it plain where in the UI a feature is located.

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                          • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                            *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                            All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                            My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                            Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                            I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                            exec@furry.engineerE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #119

                            @CorvidCrone

                            Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                            Oh, great. I "got" one. My bf is one.

                            But he's currently laid off, but not because of AI but because of outsourcing.

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                            • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                              *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                              All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                              My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                              Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                              I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                              dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                              dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                              dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social
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                              #120

                              @CorvidCrone As a former technical writer, I approve this message!

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                              • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
                                davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
                                davemwilburn@infosec.exchange
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                                #121

                                @CorvidCrone

                                Sorry, best I can do is an excruciating and meandering 29-minute long YouTube video sponsored by Nord VPN.

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                                • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                  *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                  All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                  My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                  Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                  I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                  dkf@cyberplace.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  dkf@cyberplace.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #122

                                  @CorvidCrone I got an archive.org record of a blog post that links a badly-compressed youtube video of a talk that has a briefly skipped past slide with a sentence about the API you're interested in.

                                  I'm surprised there's no sign "Beware of the Leopard".

                                  (There are bits of LLVM's advanced features that feel like they're documented exactly like this. Maybe they improved it. I doubt it, but maybe...)

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                                  • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                    *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                    All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                    My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                    Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                    I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                    pattycat@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #123

                                    @CorvidCrone user manuals, service manuals I keep from the parts and equipment along with the start-up reports I collate next to the equipment I service and maintain

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                                    • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                      *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                      All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                      My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                      Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                      I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                      ianbadcoe@peoplemaking.gamesI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #124

                                      @CorvidCrone And I certainly don't want to have to watch a half hour YouTube video that may or may not turn out to be for the same version...

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                                      • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                        *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                        All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                        My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                        Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                        I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                        gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                        gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                        gourd@indiepocalypse.social
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                                        #125

                                        @CorvidCrone unfortunately in the current state of things it's more likely you get a chatbot sent to you with a rice cooker *sigh*

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                                        • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                          *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                          All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                          My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                          Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                          I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                          swade2569@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #126

                                          @CorvidCrone No video on YT either, asking me to like share and subscribe, spending 3/4 of the time talking about and around the problem before giving a solution which is hardly a solution at all which they then link to another solution…… fuuuuuu

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