@psneeze I was genuinely wondering if it was an art installation, imagining tinny plinky-plonky arty-installation music playing as you stood there. Then I see in the thread that it's a car park in Naas and I don't know what to think about that.

@MThaastrup Fantastisk foto

@malte Thank you for saying this - I've been demoralised by the general reaction I see around me, both in 'real life' and online. People are putting so much effort into explaining away any need to modify our behaviour in any way. So I am encouraged to hear that it's not just me!

@engravecavedave

The lack of a reliable, integrated train system through Europe is a big problem for people who must travel for work or family matters. Sometimes it is not possible in the time and budget available to avoid a flight for at least one leg of the trip. That does not stop a mass boycott of holiday flights, though. A holiday does not require us to have an alternative means of transport to the same destination. We can choose holidays in places that do not require a flight.

@tsturm The press coverage is driving me bananas. The lack of context. The lack of emergency. The photo choices and language choices that treat fatal heat as entertainingly remarkable - as you say, it seems intentional at this point.

@jakobtougaard @TCatInReality

"People are not going to change behaviour at a scale that really matters"

They certainly won't as long as frivolous flying is something we congratulate people on instead of it being frowned-upon. If that flight to London is for a holiday, not work or family, then an Aarhus-KBH train price comparison is irrelevant. We were proud to be part of the mass South African apartheid boycott in the '80s. Now we tell each other it's no real use boycotting holiday flights.

@seabass The lack of a functional, reliable, integrated train system in and around through Europe is a huge issue. It's also a different issue. A mass boycott of holiday flights does not require us to have an alternative means of transport to the same destination first. We just choose not to go on holidays to a destination that requires a flight. We have our holiday somewhere else that we can get to by train or bus or bike, or we have a holiday at home.

@TCatInReality Agreed, we do. Every lever, as soon as possible.

@TCatInReality I don't think it is either/or. Yes, private jets should be banned. Yes, governments need to take radical action and impose inconvenient policies. But also yes, we have collective power. The 1% is a problem. So are those of us in the 10% or whatever the figure is, the minority who over-consume and frivolously fly. Imagine the signal and the impact if there was a mass boycott of holiday flights. Instead of just pointing at politicians and billionaires, we can show them we mean it.

@FrancescaJ Shame on us all, yes, agreed. We're hard hit with heat here right now. From what I hear both online and in in-person conversations, it seems to have galvanised us into expressing even more excuses for not doing anything. Even people who don't usually express left-wingish views are suddenly pointing at the billionaires and their jets - until they stop flying, we can do nothing, apparently.

We tone-policed flight shame away so quickly. We made smoking socially unacceptable. Smokers still smoke and are free to smoke, but give you a slightly apologetic embarrassed grin as they sneak out to the smoking area. When someone says they've bought a holiday home in Spain and someone else says they're bringing the whole family to Thailand to celebrate their birthday, there are no apologetic grins and the social expectation is still that everyone else exclaims "Oh how lovely! Lucky you!"

37° heat is depressing. So is the way we’re dealing with climate collapse. The language we’re using, the excuses we’re making. Making heat records a game, excitedly watching to see if Number Goes Up. The news said the latest temperature had ‘ruined the chance of another new record’. And we all seem to agree that, conveniently, there’s no use in inconveniencing ourselves personally by consuming less or not flying until the day after every billionaire has given up their private jet.

#ClimateDiary

@mrundkvist @henrikmillinge The project is excellent. And now more than ever, as you say - that's why I started trying to contribute only recently, inspired by the way the world is. Precisely because it is so good and so community-based, the reply-guys and mansplainers feel like an especially unnecessary drain on both individual and community energy.

@henrikmillinge @mrundkvist It is so counter-productive. Driving away veterans with all your experience, who have been contributing voluntarily for 15 years. Policing and putting off newcomers with constant negative comments and unsolicited 'advice'. A shame.

@nichni @ticho Amazing. LinkedIn for flirting. My mind is a-boggle.

@WikimediaIE @ticho @nichni And if called out on it, you could point out that it adheres to the LinkedIn Bro claim that we can be self-made and that being self-made is laudable - that we each can do anything and achieve anything and be whatever we want. Including the self-made emperor of some island off the coast of Antarctica.

@jimkennedy @mrundkvist That thought has struck me too, that is my guess too.

@mrundkvist I don't want to escalate really. I normally just ignore, but something about it bugged me enough to reply directly to his post on my page. I think it's because it's Wiki. It's about sharing free resources as a community and helping each other in collaboration, so a veteran putting a newcomer down with condescension and territorial behaviour seems counter-productive. If he has a point, it's lost in the way he delivered it and just makes me think I'm not arsed doing more Wiki-stuff.

@psneeze Ha oh yes, we would, that's perfect

@psneeze I can definitely see that on a cake.