@bkuhn I'd like to thank you and @ossguy for trying to start a conversation.

I find for topics like this one, attempts to meet the other side where they're at can quickly be misunderstood and flooded with pushback.

But in my opinion, it is that willingness to listen and negotiate that eventually leads to real outcomes and people changing their minds.

While I may not be the target you're looking for, I'll try to attend to one of the discussions and/or reach with an email in case it helps.