@VeroniqueB99

Looks like there are those who argue that Kagan is trying to lure the US government into "finishing the job" ..

@alice

Sounds good to me.
Actually quite often someone you know just doesn't to fit to end up sharing the ultimate pleasure with. Perhaps because they only are about reaching their very own shenga.

.. anyway, this already sounds like you are on your way to flirt with me. And to be sincere, we Bonobos do not have sexual intercourse with other species like some of you humans, that's kinda creepy for us. Well, in general we do not have your problems, we live in a matriarchy, that's way easier and our girls have no problems to help us out when ever we become to aroused. As they rule, they don't have to fear us ..

@alice

What a great text!

Learning question:
Are you saying that you only flirt with people to get them into your bed?

@anna_lillith

because one ads to GDP and the other doesn't

@agowa338
> I think it was more about not wanting to moderate and esp. not wanting to comply with anti-hatespeech requirements ..

Ultimately most likely all of the above.

At the same time, my consideration is that most things are not only black and white, and for some reason the saying "the road to hell is plastered with a shit load of good intentions" goes a long way.

It is reasonable to consider that initial ideas and ideals are and remain deeply rooted in people. At the same time, not only every one is corruptible by money and power but also extortionable.
Everyone.
And if you think you are not vulnerable to extortion, well, think again about your feelings, your personal experiences in life, if their are "things" that are precious to you or you fell responsible for ..

@jwildeboer

@argv_minus_one
To be sincere, these questions go way into deep of technical observations, a moment where commoners like me just shut off and walk on.

#Deltachat rules and becomes an option as long as normal people (DAU) install the APP, get asked for their email credentials, and yes even if those are gmail or hotmail, and become protected by the brute force of encryption.
full stop

In any case we are facing the same discussions we see (saw) with mastodon adoption or https.

There is only one main constitutional rule wen it comes to deal with the masses:
#KISS!

Looks to me that the @delta crew went down the rabbit hole of specialization talking to each other about the extreme needs of extreme cases, maybe even exposed to some new version of some CIA\KGB handbook ..
@kkarhan @jwildeboer

@agowa338 @jwildeboer

For me it looked like the back door interference with free speech in the arab spring made the twitter guru realize that only decentralization could lead to real free speech that ultimately has the goal of "power to the people".

The problem is that "power to the people" means being able to let loose in the first place, and for some (strange) reason there sleeps a Frodo in all of us (apparently).

So, sitting at the same ALL IN table in the restaurant at the end of the silicon valley one way street just makes you hear and feel the same things and vibes again and again, until they become true.
(for them, in their minds, their beings, their Idiocracyscale of their top ten most important people voted by their #TimeZeitGeistStream)

@jwildeboer
> I consider it to be a proprietary thing.

Of course it is, in any case my knowledge is simply not deep enough on those specifics to point them out. And it doesn't have to be.

Looking at the actors, the "experience" we all "have" with them by reading on the web what those actors did to become what they are today, adding the halloween papers and the FOSS evolution of openAI, choices and decisions are quite simple.

Ultimately the extraordinary part is the capability by mono sapiens to reinvent the wheel nearly every time they wake up instead of realizing that cooperation and learn to take that bitter pill of being only one of the many might be more difficult than creating a brand new project on github.

.. that's why it's so comfy to be a social bonobo like me.

@agowa338

@stefan
> if we continue working on

Ultimately this is about the engagement of the "work force", and I'd like to believe that the fedi with it's nearly 20 years of experience is way better positioned and has already proven to be enshitificationresistant.

Even the fact that the main guru has already left blue sky is just another proof, including the detail that he didn't came over here.

@jwildeboer

@kkarhan
Maybe that's why @delta is ruining itself by skipping email?

And no, not going to discus this, I simply will not update #deltaChat anymore and in any case wait for a hardfork of it or learn to code if necessary.

@jwildeboer

@jwildeboer
> My suspicion is that this is by design.

You mean on purpose?

Probably.

Maybe just tunnel view, incapability of not being able to think outside the box ...

@agowa338

@MichelPatrice

> the rest of the Fediverse

@jwildeboer

@jwildeboer
> You decide

. . looks like a rhetorical question from over here ..

btw
You mean the mastodon.social users just realized that their death star isn't decentralized, leads the setup to an ad absurdum circumstance and will, as always, go down with their uninformed decision making?

Do the Ddoser take credits for exposing reality or do they only accept satoshis?