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j12t@j12t.social was this from cwebber@social.coop’s blog post about the activitypub.rocks website?
If so, I was similarly surprised! I thought my ideas about utilizing OAuth2 plus the activitypub API were fairly novel … I guess it’s just a simple case of convergent evolution 
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mariusor@metalhead.club I’ve always thought that response codes and error handling was deserving of an FEP in and of itself.
NodeBB sends 200/202 on success, but will send 404, 400, 500s… depending on what happens during backend processing.
fedizen@mastodon.social how is this relevant to ActivityPub?
fox@social.hostnetwork.xyz thems fightin’ words 
overgoddess@bardicperspiration.club possibly over at ActivityPub.space?
It’s meant to be a place for AP developers but there could be a category devoted to instance admin discussions?
It’s a forum that fully federates so you don’t have to register an account there if you don’t want to.
literalgrill@sakurajima.moe I don’t think you are being incendiary, but in fact asking some very important questions.
As is usually the case with the introduction of new laws, whether it can actually be enforced is a matter of local law and statute, and also whether there have been precedents set in previous attempts to uphold the law .
In a situation like this, does the United States , or even just a single state, have the ability to uphold laws globally?
I predict that we will need to see this law challenged to determine whether or not it has any teeth outside of Mississippi, the United States, and beyond.
ipsquiggle@sunny.garden No, you will need to use a different software that allows for it.
For example, nodebb@fosstodon.org will let you follow a topic and notify you of new responses.
bentigorlich@gehirneimer.de melroy@mastodon.melroy.org see that’s the thing… You guys are active, and on the fediverse, but not on the subset of the fediverse that smallcircles@social.coop sees… the Threadiverse!
… and why wouldn’t you be on the threadiverse, it’s more relevant to mbin than the microblogiverse.
That disconnect is something I’m hoping to better address very soon.
strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz interesting… I hadn’t heard of them until just now.
Do they have a presence on the fediverse I wonder?
torsi@torsi.ca fwiw I believe melroy@kbin.melroy.org (or melroy@mastodon.melroy.org on Mastodon) is present so they’re not completely absent from the fediverse 
mro@digitalcourage.social I think you’re completely right. I’ve had the privilege of attending two in-person conferences related to ActivityPub—FOSDEM and Fedicon—and the difference between them and collaborating online is staggering.
I’m not so sure about the assertion that “big shots” weren’t on SocialHub as a cause of it being sidelined. While the big names (e.g. Evan from SWF, Renaud/Claire from Mastodon, Nutomic from Lemmy, to name a few) don’t post there often, they do show up from time to time, which goes to show that something like a forum does have a place in online collaboration.
Perhaps it is a question of whether there is enough derived value from participating in SocialHub.
I will say this, though, that I have far too much going on with my life (work, family, hobbies, more work) to dedicate the appropriate mind-share to yet another social website. I happen to participate in SocialHub discussions purely because I can do so from my own ActivityPub-enabled software. Occasionally I visit the site directly when I am directly mentioned (and later emailed about it.)
Separately, it’s worth addressing the fact that developer conversations do take place on the fediverse. It happens organically all the time, because like I said above, all activitypub developers are on the fediverse.
The problem here is that the de facto implementation is Mastodon, and the conversations taking place on Mastodon are by design ephemeral.
Arguments can be made that Mastodon does keep a copy of all of the conversations, and one need only look for them, but they’re buried in such a way as to be essentially lost to history forever. You’ve probably tried looking for something you or someone else said, and started scrolling a profile feed endlessly looking for it… don’t lie, we’ve all done it.
This is where we can throw technology at the problem… by building really good search, we can mitigate some of these losses. However this relies on people to actually use the search functionality, which is hard to guarantee
Another solution is proper categorization of content… and this is where you’ll say I have a bias. I certainly do! I’m a purveyor of forum software… the age old way of communicating online where stuff gets categorized and organized topically. To add this layer of human organization on top gets us that much closer to ensuring that the discussions we have and the discoveries we make are not simply lost to time, but preserved for future developers to re-discover and re-consume.
The issue of SocialHub is an interesting one, because where are are today is an odd situation where you have activitypub developers fragments across multiple collaborative channels.
However, the bottom line truth is as follows: every ActivityPub developer is on the fediverse, ergo why shouldn’t ActivityPub-focused discussions take place on the fediverse as well?
Up until this year, SocialHub has been an island separate from the fediverse. I used this analogy in my talk at fedicon to describe how lonely starting a community can be.
To SocialHub’s credit, they have created a community of ActivityPub developers that exists to this day, kudos to them! The question remains now whether SocialHub performing their function adequately — to bring together ActivityPub developers of all stripes.
That’s a question worth exploring in and of itself.
Twissell I think the “fallback emailer” is literally just searching for a “mail” executable on the machine.
It’s pretty outdated now, since emailing directly from your machine is a good way to just get your emails to land in a spam bin somewhere. We should probably just update this to 
️ or 
️ instead of an error.
evan@cosocial.ca I don’t think so, but I should check!
Also I was meaning to post this to the Discourse category on SocialHub but it didn’t seem to make it over
Any chance we can get this addressed? Discourse rate limits requests heavily which hampers backfill. Essentially if I try to load a topic, Discourse will stop responding to my requests after maybe 20 requests.
evan@cosocial.ca j12t@j12t.social silverpill@mitra.social I have been quietly working on an alternative, let’s chat.
silverpill@mitra.social has the shutdown been postponed? I know there were offers of financial support but am not sure whether that was enough to keep it afloat, or whether the 12 Sept deadline was still in effect.
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