@pelle I see that a lesser evil is still an evil. What I am interrogating is whether it is a lesser evil. Because animals are going to get hurt until everybody is on board, and going after the vegetarians seems like a waste of energy.

@Seitansbraten @Veggie @pelle all this to say: I *think* I’m choosing the lesser evil with a goat cheese salad than a steak, but maybe I should just give up?

@Seitansbraten @Veggie @pelle vegetarian at work, vegan at home here: I get your point that the cow’s gonna get slaughtered anyway and the calf’s not too happy about the deal either. But don’t we get a lot more food out of one milk cow than having the animals just for eating? I am aware that I’m only quibbling about the amount of torture, but I live in French cultural circles, the idea of just having a bit of beans or tofu hasn’t arrived in the industrial zone restaurants yet.