@harmoniousanger yes this. I also struggle a lot with going into a complete automatism forgetting to be due to ~various issues~. E.g. it's not good for me that phones are so easily accessible and useable. I spent so much more time on them than I want, 'cuz "hmh I wonder this or that" turns quickly into hours lost.

With activities that require a bit of time or focus, this isn't rly an issue. That's why I dislike optimization of our lifes, fitness, ...... too >.<

@AlexanderVI absolutely. I notice it in the kitchen for example. We are so accustomed to refrigeration and everything being available everytime that I have 0 knowledge on how to preserve and store things for longer periods of time outside a freezer.

My grandparents still grew up with that knowledge.

And yes. There's an argument to be made that the convenience utilities are sometimes even faster - but
a) why should we try to optimise everything all the time?
b) but at what cost?

Me learning how to tie knots has very actively contributed to my radicalised believe that small convenience utilities are actively removing knowledge from our hands.

@th hooooow did that happen lol??? Also amazing - this looks soo fun to sail