@JulianOliver THIS!
Are you interrested in a videocall? taking this further? I would love to learn something about your work.
@JulianOliver THIS!
Are you interrested in a videocall? taking this further? I would love to learn something about your work.
@JulianOliver thats not my why of doing things. out activists and i go the extra mile. but i think its great that it works for you. 
@JulianOliver normally people who fight for a good cause never despite anything imho and xp.
thats true and this is why you use matrix. the element admin app is exactly for that: remove all tokens and shut down the app for a specific user. even if someone has now access to the phones storage, its all E2EE with no way of getting those messages. you can even deice forceing a reset of all messages.
@JulianOliver sure. but something like this adds up in DevOps and administration. How anyone can tell this will work next year? or the apps will get this limit to? i will definitly not compiling android and ios apps by hand everytoime an update hits. how to distribute?
Shouldnt this be taken in concideration when using such a fork?
@JulianOliver yea there is this hack right? is it still possible to use the gitlab in the teams version for some keycloak i.e.?
@JulianOliver thats kindof true. but you really only have to convince a small group and the rest will follow.
No E2EE in Mattermost would be a no go in infra for activism for me. people should and must learn how to protect their communictaion. You should educate not lower the bar.
Make some youtube videos and a good wiki entry and people will use it or ask someone. my experience.
We proclaim it as a WhatsApp replacement, and it works well. people help out each other. 
@JulianOliver there is no active upstream or someone maintaining this. thats honestly cant be a good or safe way for infrastructure.
@JulianOliver we moved from rocket chat to matrix 2 yr ago. we have alot of groups. some with over 1k+ users. Our userbase is 60+. it works. Not saying it is all smooth. but mattermost is us based, and isnt real open. you have to pay the http://sso.tax/ ... yea the nice ui ... ok but element is getting there. the element X app is so good!
remarkable, that in your sphere of influence, UX is more important than opsec to you. why?
@JulianOliver please use matrix bro. Mattermost isn’t that OpenSource! Most of the good things things are closed and enterprise.