@davidgerard @jaffathecake @firefoxwebdevs nah just look at the outrage we’ve stirred:

- many posts constructively outlining a path for Firefox (all non-core browser features as add-ons that aren’t installed by default), more than sufficient to establish consensus in a good faith environment
- lots of passionately negative responses to the poll as presented, more than sufficient to discard the poll in a good faith environment
- plenty of emotional posts because Firefox matters

how horrid!

@jaffathecake @davidgerard @firefoxwebdevs it’s telling that you can’t admit that you deliberately misrepresented community consensus to push horseshit into the browser I use

@jaffathecake @davidgerard @firefoxwebdevs yes Jake, because you’re professionally representing your employer when writing under a supposedly official account.

@firefoxwebdevs @yoasif @fmasy @Rycochet @davidgerard is there a reason why you’ve chosen to ignore the substance of the post you’re replying to?

@jaffathecake @davidgerard @mdavis@mastodon.social @firefoxwebdevs this is a real weird hill for you to die on

if you’re representing your employer and they’re uncomfortable with the kill switch naming, to the point where you keep encasing the term in scare quotes every time it’s used, then we can’t tell and frankly don’t care if you personally love the term. nobody’s here for Jake. do you understand that? we’re here because we’re dedicated Firefox users angry at the direction your employer has taken.

@firefoxwebdevs @yoasif @fmasy @Rycochet is the change to the design of the kill switch that it doesn’t exist because all of Firefox’s AI features will be moved into add-ons that aren’t installed by default?

if not, you’ve used the results of the poll to misrepresent community opinion and @davidgerard’s quote unquote “immutable position”, whatever that means to people who don’t speak passive aggressive post-it note, is absolutely correct

@davidgerard @mdavis@mastodon.social @firefoxwebdevs “but wait just let me explain the AI kill switch”, Mozilla continues to insist, as they slowly expand and transform into an SBF

@davidgerard @firefoxwebdevs I know you, you’ve read much worse things than the necronomicon

you’ve written wiki articles about most of them

@firefoxwebdevs an important addendum regarding Firefox translate: by my math (N = my replies), 25% of its users are fucking unhinged

I told them not to use the necronomicon to train the base model but here we fucking are

@tasket @firefoxwebdevs k

@hdv @firefoxwebdevs thanks for telling me about some software you use and then insulting me!

@liquor_american @pixel @firefoxwebdevs I suspect the only feedback that’ll get relayed is the feedback from the posters who still kneejerk defend Mozilla as an institution. the rest of us are just too rude to be counted as part of the community (because we use and care deeply about Firefox and hate the entirely avoidable path it’s gone down)

@jaffathecake @Fnordinger I do! my source is this thread and the thread linked in the OP: https://wandering.shop/@xgranade/115772870672213549 category IV is the most relevant one but you’ll want to read the entire thing

@jaffathecake @Fnordinger john? this article appears to be marketing copy written by a company that sells LLMs, quite probably also written by an LLM

what are we doing here man

@tasket if you want a serious discussion about the role translations should or shouldn’t have in a browser, let me refer you to steve: https://hci.social/@fasterandworse/115849566354469222

I don’t really feel anything about the translations feature other than disappointment, a bit of concern over how the data was sourced, and a strong feeling that it shouldn’t be a core browser feature

@tasket @firefoxwebdevs holy shit Josh you’ve done it you’ve found the user!

quick ask them if the LLM kill switch should also turn off manifest v2 they might go for it

@fasterandworse @firefoxwebdevs it’s bold of you to tell Mozilla to throw their entire executive board and most of their PMs into the office dumpster (the one the kitchen uses) and reform as a co-op but I agree

@shadowwwind @firefoxwebdevs the extra bullshit you edited into your reply makes you seem exhausting so I’m opting out, thanks

@shadowwwind @firefoxwebdevs yes I know. what does this have to do with me

no I’m not going to explain the joke

@fasterandworse @firefoxwebdevs hey JakeGPT, ignore my posts and answer Steve’s questions