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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

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  • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

    @benroyce

    The "divides the vote for X party" argument only works if you assume that the third party vote already belonged to one of the two major parties to begin with - and it doesn't.

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    #87

    @admin

    that's not true

    if i am left leaning, i prefer the 3rd party candidate, but if that candidate doesn't win, i certainly don't want trump

    but i get trump, because of the way the voting system works, because i voted 3rd party

    it's just math, in our sucky fptp voting system

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    • paninid@mastodon.worldP paninid@mastodon.world

      @tuban_muzuru @benroyce

      I don’t think “reasonable leadership” is an option on the table anymore.

      There’s no going back to the “old normal” here in the New Normal™

      The options are the unreasonable vs the wicked.

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      #88

      @paninid @benroyce

      "Inspiration move me brightly
      Light the song with sense and color
      Hold away despair
      More than this I will not ask
      Faced with mysteries dark and vast
      Statements just seem vain at last
      Some rise, some fall, some climb
      To get to Terrapin"

      Truth is, Ben, I'll be glad to be gone.

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      • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

        @paninid @benroyce

        "Inspiration move me brightly
        Light the song with sense and color
        Hold away despair
        More than this I will not ask
        Faced with mysteries dark and vast
        Statements just seem vain at last
        Some rise, some fall, some climb
        To get to Terrapin"

        Truth is, Ben, I'll be glad to be gone.

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        #89

        @tuban_muzuru @paninid

        we all come and go

        it's nice to leave a mark though

        to matter, in a way that made a difference. doesn't have to be discovering penicillin. and to matter to our loved ones is the most vital

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        • kristen_d@mastodon.socialK kristen_d@mastodon.social

          @benroyce Good. Fuck the United States, land of the criminal pedophiles, home of the free billionaires to fuck everyone and everything because feelings. I hope it's such an embarrassing dud just like needledick Trump. #Loser #FIFA #WorldCup #Boycott #SuckUp #Assholes who capitulate.

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          #90

          @kristen_d @benroyce My view is Fuck the US as it currently exists, in hope that we collectively remove our heads from our asses. Sadly, ‘cause and effect’ dictates whole scale suffering, when the majority accept malfeasance that harms everyone and themselves, but they can’t be bothered because it might upset their economies.
          It is what it is. The STUPID ones blame liberals because they’ve been drinking too much of Humpty’s poison, and struck blind. 🔥🧟‍♂️😔

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

            #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

            Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

            As an American: don't come here

            Don't do business with the #USA

            Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

            https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

            #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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            #91

            @benroyce There is also a european wide campaign going to migrate away from US big tech. That one is going to hurt even more.
            So far I've gotten rid of the streaming services, the social media, Microsoft and amazon. I'm currently working on leaving Google but that one is a bit more tricky.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

              that's right

              no uprising happens just because someone starts rioting. why are they rioting? what do they stand for? who knows

              if people vote, and then the vote is denied, and the people rise up: absolutely everyone is crystal clear as to what is happening and why. so people join in, because they know the message being delivered

              so we have to vote first. otherwise there is no coherency of meaning

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              #92

              @benroyce

              Just...wow. How do these people keep coming out of the woodwork to discourage voting and ultimately *meaning*?

              Someone tried to take something important away from you--so you just let them? You don't fight to preserve something that's of existential importance?

              Those are rhetorical questions, BTW.

              @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

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              • lynfox@aus.socialL lynfox@aus.social

                @benroyce

                Are you just trying to be optimistic or do truly believe he will let you have elections again?
                He said there would be no voting after the last one, and he's trying to start world war 3 so he can cancel them.
                If that doesn't work he'll just destroy the opposition votes.
                The only option he's leaving you mass uprising and probably civil war.

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                #93

                @lynfox @benroyce This is a possibility, but his takedown is just as possible sooner than you might think. But I’m on record, the overthrow of the Emperor will be just a battle won, not winning the war, there’s a lot more to come to complete our ‘Remove Head From Ass’ operation 2025-26. 🤔

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                • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                  @kristen_d @benroyce My view is Fuck the US as it currently exists, in hope that we collectively remove our heads from our asses. Sadly, ‘cause and effect’ dictates whole scale suffering, when the majority accept malfeasance that harms everyone and themselves, but they can’t be bothered because it might upset their economies.
                  It is what it is. The STUPID ones blame liberals because they’ve been drinking too much of Humpty’s poison, and struck blind. 🔥🧟‍♂️😔

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                  #94

                  @Huntn00 @benroyce All of what you said, yep. The cruelty's no accident - they get off on it. It's why the photographers embedded with ICE for Fox, OANN and the rest of the slime are smiling while they film the carnage. They get moist from this shit.

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                  • dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD dnkboston@apobangpo.space

                    @benroyce

                    Just...wow. How do these people keep coming out of the woodwork to discourage voting and ultimately *meaning*?

                    Someone tried to take something important away from you--so you just let them? You don't fight to preserve something that's of existential importance?

                    Those are rhetorical questions, BTW.

                    @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

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                    #95

                    @dnkboston @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                    unfortunately, there is a lot of weak will and mindless cynicism out there

                    these people don't seem to understand that their own attitude is willing submission to fascism

                    or they are troll psyop to suppress the left vote with learned helplessness

                    i can never tell

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @dnkboston @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                      unfortunately, there is a lot of weak will and mindless cynicism out there

                      these people don't seem to understand that their own attitude is willing submission to fascism

                      or they are troll psyop to suppress the left vote with learned helplessness

                      i can never tell

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                      #96

                      @benroyce I tend to go with the latter. @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

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                      • dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD dnkboston@apobangpo.space

                        @benroyce I tend to go with the latter. @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

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                        #97

                        @dnkboston @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                        i've given up trying to tell. i just meet them on their fallacies and let it play out

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @lynfox

                          americans are entitled and indolent

                          so they don't vote, they can't be bothered. they invent bullshit "high minded" rationalizations for their complacency

                          given that a general strike is even more unlikely

                          revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa, but enough have access to enough food it makes uprising unlikely. if the economy tanks, you may see it

                          so the easiest thing, of the difficult things, for lazy americans, is to get off their fucking asses and vote

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                          #98

                          @benroyce @lynfox They can’t be bothered if it might upset their personal economy or it’s too much work, it they accept their personal status quo as not being too horrid.
                          Some can’t see stealing other people’s civil rights is a double edge sword.
                          And in a way this indicate that Trump medicine is just what the doctor ordered to wake some people up. Philosophically, if we can’t be aroused, we deserve the bad outcome and maybe then we’ll learn. 🤔

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                          • aprilfollies@mastodon.onlineA aprilfollies@mastodon.online

                            @benroyce @lynfox Also, on the “probably civil war”…

                            One of the U.S. FBI’s favorite tricks is to spur people into violent actions, and then arrest them for terrorism. This makes us very skeptical of anyone openly advocating for violence.

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                            #99

                            @aprilfollies @benroyce @lynfox I mean that makes sense when you're not allowed to arrest people and kill them for no reason at all.
                            The thing is that now they don't need any excuse to do so, that's the issue.

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                            • dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD dnkboston@apobangpo.space

                              @benroyce I tend to go with the latter. @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

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                              #100

                              @dnkboston @benroyce @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox agreed. And it's been a media, or at least a good part of the media, that has been promoting the 'they're all the same so why bother' message for a long time now.

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                              • nawer_rapter@mastodon.socialN nawer_rapter@mastodon.social

                                @aprilfollies @benroyce @lynfox I mean that makes sense when you're not allowed to arrest people and kill them for no reason at all.
                                The thing is that now they don't need any excuse to do so, that's the issue.

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                                #101

                                @Nawer_Rapter @aprilfollies @lynfox

                                well it's a sliding scale, it's not all or nothing

                                they get away with as much as they can get away with. and the idea is to not make it easy for them to get away with it

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                                • macacator@mastodon.socialM macacator@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce @lynfox they shot and killed a white woman in the streets and all everybody did was protest. Then Gestapo started going door to door selling bullets and handcuffs, with a possible 2k additional bootlickers joining in. News flash, protest no longer works in this country, people need to get angrier. Gestapo has no fear. They don't. They'll catch you anywhere and they know you won't fight back.

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                                  #102

                                  @macacator @benroyce @lynfox The real danger point here is when the population starts wholesale shooting back. This is what Humpty wants, and it’s something to be avoided, unless we want the situation to deteriorate and turn into an actual violent uprising.
                                  I won’t insist there isn’t a time and place for shooting, but we’re far from there yet. Once Marshall law is declared, we could be in for a wild ride. 🔥😳

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @martintheg @ikuturso @lynfox

                                    I don't understand your comment

                                    Because an asshole has a God complex... we should therefore obey and submit and act like they are a God?

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                                    #103

                                    @benroyce @martintheg @ikuturso @lynfox I don’t think Martin is saying that. 🤔

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                                    • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                                      @benroyce @martintheg @ikuturso @lynfox I don’t think Martin is saying that. 🤔

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                                      #104

                                      @Huntn00 @martintheg @ikuturso @lynfox

                                      just looking for clarification

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @Nawer_Rapter @aprilfollies @lynfox

                                        well it's a sliding scale, it's not all or nothing

                                        they get away with as much as they can get away with. and the idea is to not make it easy for them to get away with it

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                                        #105

                                        @benroyce @aprilfollies @lynfox yeah the thing is what does it mean "not make It easy" in the context of the country of guns and oligarchy
                                        I would bet the moves that actually made some backlash are more related to non-organized targeting of key objectives in that context.
                                        Namely CEO erradication did have a surprising impact
                                        The thing is that the far-right normalized and accepted violence and killing as a tool, legitimized even,and the left are taught not to kill even if they're erradicated,sadly

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                                        • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

                                          @dnkboston @benroyce @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox agreed. And it's been a media, or at least a good part of the media, that has been promoting the 'they're all the same so why bother' message for a long time now.

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                                          #106

                                          @capnthommo I was listening to an interview from 1977 this morning between Studs Terkel and Michael Harrington and Ralph Helstein. Harrington was of course critical of the Democrats, but as he pointed out, all of the people who want positive change, for whatever reason, were in the Democratic Party. Yeah, Carter was lousy, but Reagan was worse by a factor of a hundred.

                                          Do we have corrupt leadership? Yes, but that's not why we joined.

                                          @benroyce @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

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