Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
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If that's the case, then voting third party would have no effect on the other two parties.
I've been told that my vote for a third party helped Harris in the last election... I've been told that my third party vote helped Trump in the last election.
Both can't be true.. and if they are, then I need to be arrested and jailed for voter fraud, because that means I voted three times with one vote.
Third party voters are voting their conscience, as they should, and divides nothing. -c-
i don't know what to say to you. you're saying something that's just simply false. a third party vote divides the left and hands a win to trump
happened with nader in 2000
happened with perot in 1992 (in that case, it was dividing the right, giving a win to clinton)
are you familiar with the idea of someone who has good intentions but only winds up hurting something?
that is what you are doing
watch this, learn about voting systems:
(the title is just edgy)
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The "divides the vote for X party" argument only works if you assume that the third party vote already belonged to one of the two major parties to begin with - and it doesn't.
that's not true
if i am left leaning, i prefer the 3rd party candidate, but if that candidate doesn't win, i certainly don't want trump
but i get trump, because of the way the voting system works, because i voted 3rd party
it's just math, in our sucky fptp voting system
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I don’t think “reasonable leadership” is an option on the table anymore.
There’s no going back to the “old normal” here in the New Normal
The options are the unreasonable vs the wicked.
"Inspiration move me brightly
Light the song with sense and color
Hold away despair
More than this I will not ask
Faced with mysteries dark and vast
Statements just seem vain at last
Some rise, some fall, some climb
To get to Terrapin"Truth is, Ben, I'll be glad to be gone.
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we all come and go
it's nice to leave a mark though
to matter, in a way that made a difference. doesn't have to be discovering penicillin. and to matter to our loved ones is the most vital
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@kristen_d @benroyce My view is Fuck the US as it currently exists, in hope that we collectively remove our heads from our asses. Sadly, ‘cause and effect’ dictates whole scale suffering, when the majority accept malfeasance that harms everyone and themselves, but they can’t be bothered because it might upset their economies.
It is what it is. The STUPID ones blame liberals because they’ve been drinking too much of Humpty’s poison, and struck blind.
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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets
#FIFA is holding an emergency meeting
Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)
As an American: don't come here
Don't do business with the #USA
Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates
https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/
@benroyce There is also a european wide campaign going to migrate away from US big tech. That one is going to hurt even more.
So far I've gotten rid of the streaming services, the social media, Microsoft and amazon. I'm currently working on leaving Google but that one is a bit more tricky. -
@PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox
that's right
no uprising happens just because someone starts rioting. why are they rioting? what do they stand for? who knows
if people vote, and then the vote is denied, and the people rise up: absolutely everyone is crystal clear as to what is happening and why. so people join in, because they know the message being delivered
so we have to vote first. otherwise there is no coherency of meaning
Just...wow. How do these people keep coming out of the woodwork to discourage voting and ultimately *meaning*?
Someone tried to take something important away from you--so you just let them? You don't fight to preserve something that's of existential importance?
Those are rhetorical questions, BTW.
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Are you just trying to be optimistic or do truly believe he will let you have elections again?
He said there would be no voting after the last one, and he's trying to start world war 3 so he can cancel them.
If that doesn't work he'll just destroy the opposition votes.
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@kristen_d @benroyce My view is Fuck the US as it currently exists, in hope that we collectively remove our heads from our asses. Sadly, ‘cause and effect’ dictates whole scale suffering, when the majority accept malfeasance that harms everyone and themselves, but they can’t be bothered because it might upset their economies.
It is what it is. The STUPID ones blame liberals because they’ve been drinking too much of Humpty’s poison, and struck blind.🧟️ -
Just...wow. How do these people keep coming out of the woodwork to discourage voting and ultimately *meaning*?
Someone tried to take something important away from you--so you just let them? You don't fight to preserve something that's of existential importance?
Those are rhetorical questions, BTW.
@dnkboston @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox
unfortunately, there is a lot of weak will and mindless cynicism out there
these people don't seem to understand that their own attitude is willing submission to fascism
or they are troll psyop to suppress the left vote with learned helplessness
i can never tell
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@dnkboston @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox
unfortunately, there is a lot of weak will and mindless cynicism out there
these people don't seem to understand that their own attitude is willing submission to fascism
or they are troll psyop to suppress the left vote with learned helplessness
i can never tell
@benroyce I tend to go with the latter. @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox
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@benroyce I tend to go with the latter. @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox
@dnkboston @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox
i've given up trying to tell. i just meet them on their fallacies and let it play out
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americans are entitled and indolent
so they don't vote, they can't be bothered. they invent bullshit "high minded" rationalizations for their complacency
given that a general strike is even more unlikely
revolution happens when people are hungry. there is hunger in the usa, but enough have access to enough food it makes uprising unlikely. if the economy tanks, you may see it
so the easiest thing, of the difficult things, for lazy americans, is to get off their fucking asses and vote
@benroyce @lynfox They can’t be bothered if it might upset their personal economy or it’s too much work, it they accept their personal status quo as not being too horrid.
Some can’t see stealing other people’s civil rights is a double edge sword.
And in a way this indicate that Trump medicine is just what the doctor ordered to wake some people up. Philosophically, if we can’t be aroused, we deserve the bad outcome and maybe then we’ll learn.
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@aprilfollies @benroyce @lynfox I mean that makes sense when you're not allowed to arrest people and kill them for no reason at all.
The thing is that now they don't need any excuse to do so, that's the issue. -
@benroyce I tend to go with the latter. @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox
@dnkboston @benroyce @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox agreed. And it's been a media, or at least a good part of the media, that has been promoting the 'they're all the same so why bother' message for a long time now.
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@aprilfollies @benroyce @lynfox I mean that makes sense when you're not allowed to arrest people and kill them for no reason at all.
The thing is that now they don't need any excuse to do so, that's the issue.@Nawer_Rapter @aprilfollies @lynfox
well it's a sliding scale, it's not all or nothing
they get away with as much as they can get away with. and the idea is to not make it easy for them to get away with it
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@benroyce @lynfox they shot and killed a white woman in the streets and all everybody did was protest. Then Gestapo started going door to door selling bullets and handcuffs, with a possible 2k additional bootlickers joining in. News flash, protest no longer works in this country, people need to get angrier. Gestapo has no fear. They don't. They'll catch you anywhere and they know you won't fight back.
@macacator @benroyce @lynfox The real danger point here is when the population starts wholesale shooting back. This is what Humpty wants, and it’s something to be avoided, unless we want the situation to deteriorate and turn into an actual violent uprising.
I won’t insist there isn’t a time and place for shooting, but we’re far from there yet. Once Marshall law is declared, we could be in for a wild ride.
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I don't understand your comment
Because an asshole has a God complex... we should therefore obey and submit and act like they are a God?
@benroyce @martintheg @ikuturso @lynfox I don’t think Martin is saying that.
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@benroyce @martintheg @ikuturso @lynfox I don’t think Martin is saying that.
@Huntn00 @martintheg @ikuturso @lynfox
just looking for clarification
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@Nawer_Rapter @aprilfollies @lynfox
well it's a sliding scale, it's not all or nothing
they get away with as much as they can get away with. and the idea is to not make it easy for them to get away with it
@benroyce @aprilfollies @lynfox yeah the thing is what does it mean "not make It easy" in the context of the country of guns and oligarchy
I would bet the moves that actually made some backlash are more related to non-organized targeting of key objectives in that context.
Namely CEO erradication did have a surprising impact
The thing is that the far-right normalized and accepted violence and killing as a tool, legitimized even,and the left are taught not to kill even if they're erradicated,sadly
