OH from my partner in the other room, who is not in IT: Teams is not a document repository!
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@catsalad @cR0w when i was a kid, one of my first sysadmin jobs involved running around a building campus in del mar with a floppy disk that had a lotus notes activation file. I think it was a certificate? i honestly dont remember. any time an employee had to format, or like, reinstall their os, they needed this file and the head sysadmin thought it was a good idea to sneakernet a floppy around the place.
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@Uair oh you havent heard that one? the act of putting a thing on a cd or a usb stick or a floppy and walking it somewhere?
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OH from my partner in the other room, who is not in IT: Teams is not a document repository!
It's not just nerds fighting that shit.
@cR0w There is Nextcloud, but it's Affero GPL and some people can't handle it.
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@cR0w There is Nextcloud, but it's Affero GPL and some people can't handle it.
@bms48 Do you have any idea how long it took my partner to get on board with our personal Nextcloud server?
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OH from my partner in the other room, who is not in IT: Teams is not a document repository!
It's not just nerds fighting that shit.
I HATE Teams!
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I HATE Teams!
@Quasit I don't understand why people would use it for more than absolutely necessary.
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@Uair oh you havent heard that one? the act of putting a thing on a cd or a usb stick or a floppy and walking it somewhere?
Naaah, but my dad used to get all my 5.25" floppy games off bulletin boards and through snail mail. Snail mailed floppies--the original "going viral". Thanks for cluing me in on a new word. I'm hyperlexical--words are my thing.
Speaking of original virals, you catch "Shut Up, Little Man" when it was going around? I found a best-of compiled into a CD in the dollar bin once. Maybe I can return the favor. It's...unique
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@Quasit I don't understand why people would use it for more than absolutely necessary.
It's a management fad. They have to make some huge expenditures every year to justify their existence and "simplify the process". But the old platforms take forever to go away, and there are always at least a few people using each kind no matter how old it is. For god's sake, all we need is email and a spreadsheet to track requests!
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@Quasit I don't understand why people would use it for more than absolutely necessary.
@cR0w
️ People at the office get really excited about all the integrations it has and I have no idea why. And it always inevitably leads to confusion anyway. And then they think they can solve that with more integrations and sharing tutorials around. Having four different tasks show up as four different applications in my task bar feels like a feature to me, something to be celebrated. Instead, the vast majority of the time, my only two open programs are Teams and my web browser. I insist on using the browser to access SharePoint, but I even hate that.I wish we could just get a basic messaging app that isn't secretly a web browser, opens in a (small) fraction of a second, and doesn't do anything else. But people would insist on using Teams anyway because, "it's more powerful."
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@cR0w Correct, that's what Lotus Notes for!
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@cR0w
️ People at the office get really excited about all the integrations it has and I have no idea why. And it always inevitably leads to confusion anyway. And then they think they can solve that with more integrations and sharing tutorials around. Having four different tasks show up as four different applications in my task bar feels like a feature to me, something to be celebrated. Instead, the vast majority of the time, my only two open programs are Teams and my web browser. I insist on using the browser to access SharePoint, but I even hate that.I wish we could just get a basic messaging app that isn't secretly a web browser, opens in a (small) fraction of a second, and doesn't do anything else. But people would insist on using Teams anyway because, "it's more powerful."
@piper Excel, Thunderbird, and Signal and I'm set. I wish LibreOffice Calc was suitable to replace Excel but it's just not. Yet.
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OH from my partner in the other room, who is not in IT: Teams is not a document repository!
It's not just nerds fighting that shit.
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@cR0w yo dawg i heard you hate sharepoint so everything is sharepoint now motherfucker
"What if we took the worst parts of SharePoint (all of it) and Skype For Business (all of it) and smashed it together with a UI that only kind of makes sense on a tablet, but everyone will use it with a mouse?"
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I firmly believe the only good design decision in MS Teams is that the menu says "Quit Teams" and not "Exit" as Microsoft has traditionally used.
It may be wishful thinking, but I hope that someone spent significant social capital to argue for that choice, knowing it would be the only positive association with the software for many users.
