Mastodon.social has no advantages at all over any other server.
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@FediTips First I love libraries a lot and implicity trust them, and different from other organisations I know them and how they are governed.
Secondly I always thought they would self host. Never checked this assumpion until now. Feel a bit stupid now as I could k ow better about German IT infrastructure.I want to stay as far away from big tech and US tech aus humanly possible. So even some European servers are not exactly desirable.
Damn... that's awful, I can totally understand why you chose them, I would have done the same.
It's very odd they didn't have backups, are they definitely not going to have anything restored after November?
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@FediTips Last year, I also created accounts on mastodon.world and hachyderm.io and left them empty. It would be a good exercise to try the import/export functions and move to one of those. I've been curious to see how the move process works.
Sounds good
You can move back and forth as often as you want, so if you change your mind you can always transfer stuff back.
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Damn... that's awful, I can totally understand why you chose them, I would have done the same.
It's very odd they didn't have backups, are they definitely not going to have anything restored after November?
@FediTips Thank you 🥹
They have written that all data after that is irretrievable
(https://bibcourse.eu/t/https-openbiblio-social-down/284/51)
Being a massive believer in tech redundancy and secure storage of data and documentation this does rock my trust (as a non-tech person myself I rely on experts). I mean, if *libraries* lose data, what is safe in this world?
Of course in my case it is "only" social Media banter. Just after losing 90% of my Twitter mutuals that either stayed or chose Jack's Next Promise I feel strangely vulnarable for losing a community in a time of need. Again.
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OpenBiblio.social seems to be working here when I tried it just now, is it still not working at your end?
About choosing a server, I've got a site for non-technical people at http://fedi.garden where all the servers have promised to be compatible with the points at https://fedi.garden/about-this-site
For more technical people who want a longer non-curated list, try https://fedidb.com/servers (but there are no promises made on that site).
Is there a reason why moderation against for example antisemitism or ableism isn't on the list of requirements?
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Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.
In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server
TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.
If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden
I think mastodon.social is "ok" for people to start using. It's like starting high school without knowing anyone or where to find your group. Gradually, you'll discover where the like-minded people are. Then you'll move closer to them.
Choosing an instance is not easy, at least not if you want to do it thoughtfully. The quality of the infrastructure and moderation varies, so you need to compare options - it demands effort.I tell people who get worried when they see people criticising the largest instances to take their time to find their place. Keep posting and following people, and you'll gradually see new instances appear in your feed. There's no need to feel guilty; just observe and be ready to move when you find one that suits you. You can choose based on your language (especially if it's not English, it's very useful to be in an instance where people speak your language), your country or city, or a thematic instance where it'll be easier to find people who like the same things as you, such as games, technology, veganism, art, science etc. There are instances with different features; you can choose one based on trust in a specific admin. There are so many things to consider!
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I think mastodon.social is "ok" for people to start using. It's like starting high school without knowing anyone or where to find your group. Gradually, you'll discover where the like-minded people are. Then you'll move closer to them.
Choosing an instance is not easy, at least not if you want to do it thoughtfully. The quality of the infrastructure and moderation varies, so you need to compare options - it demands effort.I tell people who get worried when they see people criticising the largest instances to take their time to find their place. Keep posting and following people, and you'll gradually see new instances appear in your feed. There's no need to feel guilty; just observe and be ready to move when you find one that suits you. You can choose based on your language (especially if it's not English, it's very useful to be in an instance where people speak your language), your country or city, or a thematic instance where it'll be easier to find people who like the same things as you, such as games, technology, veganism, art, science etc. There are instances with different features; you can choose one based on trust in a specific admin. There are so many things to consider!
Mastodon.social doesn't help new people in any way though? They would find it just as easy starting on (for example) ohai.social.
"Choosing an instance is not easy"
I've tried to make it as possible at https://fedi.garden
If there's any way I can make the site easier feedback very welcome
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Is there a reason why moderation against for example antisemitism or ableism isn't on the list of requirements?
I've tried to build upon the wording on JoinMastodon, as many servers were already complying with that.
But if any server tolerates antisemitism, ableism or other bigotry I will of course remove it from fedi.garden.
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Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.
In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server
TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.
If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden
Agree, mstodon.social should close down sign ups if you ask me.
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@FediTips Thank you 🥹
They have written that all data after that is irretrievable
(https://bibcourse.eu/t/https-openbiblio-social-down/284/51)
Being a massive believer in tech redundancy and secure storage of data and documentation this does rock my trust (as a non-tech person myself I rely on experts). I mean, if *libraries* lose data, what is safe in this world?
Of course in my case it is "only" social Media banter. Just after losing 90% of my Twitter mutuals that either stayed or chose Jack's Next Promise I feel strangely vulnarable for losing a community in a time of need. Again.
Indeed, one would expect libraries to take archiving seriously!
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Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.
In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server
TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.
If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden
@FediTips
Personaly, i recomend the lowest possible active users becuase that makes it.personal. At the same time, looking at how long its been running.
Beamship just hit over 700.days then we had an unrevoerble database crash so we had to rebuild. -
Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.
In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server
TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.
If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden
@FediTips is there any way to migrate accounts from one instance to the other? Because I created an account in mastodon server but I don't know if I can move my account now that is has already been created
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Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.
In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server
TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.
If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden
@FediTips I moved from mastodon.cloud to a smaller server, which has been a great choice. (I think I used one of the tips to find the new server.)
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@FediTips I moved from mastodon.cloud to a smaller server, which has been a great choice. (I think I used one of the tips to find the new server.)
Glad to hear it's gone well!
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@FediTips is there any way to migrate accounts from one instance to the other? Because I created an account in mastodon server but I don't know if I can move my account now that is has already been created
Yes, there is!
I've done a guide about it at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server
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Yes, there is!
I've done a guide about it at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server
@FediTips thanks:)
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Mastodon.social doesn't help new people in any way though? They would find it just as easy starting on (for example) ohai.social.
"Choosing an instance is not easy"
I've tried to make it as possible at https://fedi.garden
If there's any way I can make the site easier feedback very welcome
Yes, you do a great work and I'm sure it's easier to choose if people follow your guides!
The difficult part is deciding based on admin trust, rules and jurisdiction, and knowing in advance about infrastructure, security/backups, and if it is active enough and well connected to others. That's why I said, 'at least not if you want to do it thoughtfully.' Nobody can do that for you, and the sad thing is that when people choose 'the bad instance', others usually blame them for not choosing carefully enough.
Mastodon.social doesn't help new people in any way though? They would find it just as easy starting on (for example) ohai.social.
Ohai seems good. They publish information about their infrastructure and the full names of the people behind it - it's an IT company, if I understand correctly? - and the page loads very quickly. I tried searching for accounts from my country and found some, so it's not isolated in Europe. It could also be a good starting point since it's generic and not limited to a particular theme or ideology. -
Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.
In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server
TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.
If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden
@FediTips very insightful and interesting! I'm new to the Fediverse, so this is still so fascinating for me!
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Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.
In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server
TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.
If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden
@FediTips can you transfer with history and contacts?
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@FediTips can you transfer with history and contacts?
You can transfer your followers, follows, bookmarks, lists, mutes, blocks and domain blocks.
Your posts remain on the previous server, but they redirect people to your new account.
More info on how to transfer at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server
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@FediTips Since you kindly offer to answer any questions: I chose to open my account on openbiblio.social. They have been offline since 26 December. I have since learned that was caused by their provider netcup who did not help to get anything fixed (paraphrasing the information here).
So how does one choose a server without knowing what kind of infrastructure they rely on? I'd never consiously chosen a US infrastructure.
@LappenjammerDieZweite en el #fediverse es bueno por estas cosas tener 2 o 3 cuentas en servidores/instancias/dominios diferentes por si a algún servidor le ocurre algo-
