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  • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

    @FediTips

    Is there a reason why moderation against for example antisemitism or ableism isn't on the list of requirements?

    feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #34

    @project1enigma

    I've tried to build upon the wording on JoinMastodon, as many servers were already complying with that.

    But if any server tolerates antisemitism, ableism or other bigotry I will of course remove it from fedi.garden.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

      In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

      TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

      If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

      #FediTips

      lor@goingdark.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #35

      @FediTips

      Agree, mstodon.social should close down sign ups if you ask me.

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      • lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net

        @FediTips Thank you 🥹

        They have written that all data after that is irretrievable

        (https://bibcourse.eu/t/https-openbiblio-social-down/284/51)

        Being a massive believer in tech redundancy and secure storage of data and documentation this does rock my trust (as a non-tech person myself I rely on experts). I mean, if *libraries* lose data, what is safe in this world?

        Of course in my case it is "only" social Media banter. Just after losing 90% of my Twitter mutuals that either stayed or chose Jack's Next Promise I feel strangely vulnarable for losing a community in a time of need. Again.

        feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #36

        @LappenjammerDieZweite

        Indeed, one would expect libraries to take archiving seriously!

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

          In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

          TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

          If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

          #FediTips

          bob@beamship.mpaq.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #37

          @FediTips

          Personaly, i recomend the lowest possible active users becuase that makes it.personal. At the same time, looking at how long its been running.

          Beamship just hit over 700.days then we had an unrevoerble database crash so we had to rebuild.

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

            In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

            TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

            If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

            #FediTips

            victor_leries@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #38

            @FediTips is there any way to migrate accounts from one instance to the other? Because I created an account in mastodon server but I don't know if I can move my account now that is has already been created

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            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

              Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

              In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

              TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

              If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

              #FediTips

              nxskok@cupoftea.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #39

              @FediTips I moved from mastodon.cloud to a smaller server, which has been a great choice. (I think I used one of the tips to find the new server.)

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              • nxskok@cupoftea.socialN nxskok@cupoftea.social

                @FediTips I moved from mastodon.cloud to a smaller server, which has been a great choice. (I think I used one of the tips to find the new server.)

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                #40

                @nxskok

                Glad to hear it's gone well! 🙂

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                • victor_leries@mastodon.socialV victor_leries@mastodon.social

                  @FediTips is there any way to migrate accounts from one instance to the other? Because I created an account in mastodon server but I don't know if I can move my account now that is has already been created

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                  #41

                  @victor_leries

                  Yes, there is!

                  I've done a guide about it at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    @victor_leries

                    Yes, there is!

                    I've done a guide about it at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

                    victor_leries@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #42

                    @FediTips thanks:)

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      @veroandi

                      Mastodon.social doesn't help new people in any way though? They would find it just as easy starting on (for example) ohai.social.

                      "Choosing an instance is not easy"

                      I've tried to make it as possible at https://fedi.garden

                      If there's any way I can make the site easier feedback very welcome 🙂

                      veroandi@connexia.hibiol.euV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #43

                      @FediTips

                      Yes, you do a great work and I'm sure it's easier to choose if people follow your guides! 😉

                      The difficult part is deciding based on admin trust, rules and jurisdiction, and knowing in advance about infrastructure, security/backups, and if it is active enough and well connected to others. That's why I said, 'at least not if you want to do it thoughtfully.' Nobody can do that for you, and the sad thing is that when people choose 'the bad instance', others usually blame them for not choosing carefully enough.

                      Mastodon.social doesn't help new people in any way though? They would find it just as easy starting on (for example) ohai.social.


                      Ohai seems good. They publish information about their infrastructure and the full names of the people behind it - it's an IT company, if I understand correctly? - and the page loads very quickly. I tried searching for accounts from my country and found some, so it's not isolated in Europe. It could also be a good starting point since it's generic and not limited to a particular theme or ideology.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                        In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                        TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                        If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                        #FediTips

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                        #44

                        @FediTips very insightful and interesting! I'm new to the Fediverse, so this is still so fascinating for me!

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                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                          Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                          In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                          TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                          If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                          #FediTips

                          frieke72@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #45

                          @FediTips can you transfer with history and contacts?

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                          • frieke72@mastodon.socialF frieke72@mastodon.social

                            @FediTips can you transfer with history and contacts?

                            feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #46

                            @Frieke72

                            You can transfer your followers, follows, bookmarks, lists, mutes, blocks and domain blocks.

                            Your posts remain on the previous server, but they redirect people to your new account.

                            More info on how to transfer at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

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                            • lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.netL lappenjammerdiezweite@social.vivaldi.net

                              @FediTips Since you kindly offer to answer any questions: I chose to open my account on openbiblio.social. They have been offline since 26 December. I have since learned that was caused by their provider netcup who did not help to get anything fixed (paraphrasing the information here).

                              So how does one choose a server without knowing what kind of infrastructure they rely on? I'd never consiously chosen a US infrastructure.

                              coloco@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #47

                              @LappenjammerDieZweite en el #fediverse es bueno por estas cosas tener 2 o 3 cuentas en servidores/instancias/dominios diferentes por si a algún servidor le ocurre algo-

                              @FediTips

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                                In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                                TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                                If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                                #FediTips

                                regendans@todon.euR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #48

                                @FediTips 💯 Agree fully with your message.

                                And if new users want to follow people on Meta's Threads then mastodon.social has the advantage that it is open to that. Unlike the many instances which block it. https://fedipact.online Though I imagine few new users would reason like that.

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  @project1enigma

                                  I've tried to build upon the wording on JoinMastodon, as many servers were already complying with that.

                                  But if any server tolerates antisemitism, ableism or other bigotry I will of course remove it from fedi.garden.

                                  project1enigma@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #49

                                  @FediTips I understand. Thanks.

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                                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                    Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                                    In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                                    TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                                    If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                                    #FediTips

                                    cutesobri@cathode.churchC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #50

                                    @FediTips
                                    by taking users i see how its not helping decenterization but they crash if they get to big for their mods and if we push for it we could get them to cut the sever away from the org that does dev stuff

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                                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                      Mastodon.social has no advantages over any other Mastodon server. It has no special status or privileges, it uses exactly the same software as other Mastodon servers.

                                      In fact I'd strongly advise people *NOT* to sign up on mastodon.social, here are the reasons why: https://fedi.tips/its-a-really-bad-idea-to-join-a-big-server

                                      TL:DR - It's far far too big, it's putting the entire decentralised nature of the Fediverse in danger.

                                      If you want help choosing a good reliable server, have a look at https://fedi.garden

                                      #FediTips

                                      michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #51

                                      @FediTips

                                      You say that you have over 200,000 followers and is on a single user server.

                                      What kind of server do you have? I mean, what kind of RAM and storage, if these are the relevant specs?

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                                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                        p.s. Posting this because new people on other servers were asking if they needed to open an account on mastodon.social or move to mastodon.social. Answer to both is no 🙂

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                                        #52

                                        @FediTips
                                        "Stay away from the voodoo. And Mastodon.social too"

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                                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                          @Frieke72

                                          You can transfer your followers, follows, bookmarks, lists, mutes, blocks and domain blocks.

                                          Your posts remain on the previous server, but they redirect people to your new account.

                                          More info on how to transfer at https://fedi.tips/transferring-your-mastodon-account-to-another-server

                                          stomata@procial.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #53

                                          @FediTips@social.growyourown.services @Frieke72@mastodon.social you can transfer your posts if you choose a Sharkey instance. You can import your posts if you want from Mastodon, misskey, akkoma, Twitter even facebook

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