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  3. If you live outside of the United States,do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

If you live outside of the United States,do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    If you live outside of the United States,
    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

    What would happen to your work?

    What would happen to your hospitals?

    What would happen to your emergency services?

    What would happen to your banks?

    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

    What would happen?
    Is your country prepared?

    #DataSovereignty

    bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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    bredroll@mas.to
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #23

    @Em0nM4stodon my ircd is ready and waiting for when teams goes offline (again)

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    • khleedril@cyberplace.socialK khleedril@cyberplace.social

      @Em0nM4stodon Nobody in the US is that stupid, right? Right?

      estibensito_@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #24

      @khleedril @Em0nM4stodon i’m sorry but I’m not counting on that.

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      • lina@tech.lgbtL lina@tech.lgbt

        @Em0nM4stodon oh dw the country runs on almost exclusively pirated copies of windows and ms office, the us govt won't be able to do anything about that /hj

        estibensito_@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        estibensito_@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #25

        @lina @Em0nM4stodon they can shut down all services including Security updates.

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          If you live outside of the United States,
          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

          What would happen to your work?

          What would happen to your hospitals?

          What would happen to your emergency services?

          What would happen to your banks?

          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

          What would happen?
          Is your country prepared?

          #DataSovereignty

          dfs_comedy@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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          dfs_comedy@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #26

          @Em0nM4stodon I personally would feel no effects other than my Android phone not having access to Google services.

          I host my own email, my own chat server, my own videoconferencing software, and so on. I rely on nothing from Amazon or Microsoft and only non-critical things from Google.

          But you are right. Almost everyone else in my country would be in big trouble, and in the end, I would be too because I do rely on stores, hospitals, etc.

          me@social.jlamothe.netM 1 Reply Last reply
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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            If you live outside of the United States,
            do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

            What would happen to your work?

            What would happen to your hospitals?

            What would happen to your emergency services?

            What would happen to your banks?

            Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

            What would happen?
            Is your country prepared?

            #DataSovereignty

            wahfo@meow.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
            wahfo@meow.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
            wahfo@meow.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #27

            @Em0nM4stodon
            Thanks i was looking for more things to worry about 😅

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            • dfs_comedy@mastodon.socialD dfs_comedy@mastodon.social

              @Em0nM4stodon I personally would feel no effects other than my Android phone not having access to Google services.

              I host my own email, my own chat server, my own videoconferencing software, and so on. I rely on nothing from Amazon or Microsoft and only non-critical things from Google.

              But you are right. Almost everyone else in my country would be in big trouble, and in the end, I would be too because I do rely on stores, hospitals, etc.

              me@social.jlamothe.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #28
              @dfs_comedy @Em0nM4stodon Does your bank? Your local grocer? You may be shielded from direct effects, but it almost certainly would affect you in unexpected indirect ways.
              stekopf@mstdn.socialS dfs_comedy@mastodon.socialD 2 Replies Last reply
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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                If you live outside of the United States,
                do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                What would happen to your work?

                What would happen to your hospitals?

                What would happen to your emergency services?

                What would happen to your banks?

                Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                What would happen?
                Is your country prepared?

                #DataSovereignty

                estibensito_@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                estibensito_@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
                estibensito_@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #29

                @Em0nM4stodon here’s a complete and comprehensive list for those who are migrating to open source software to become digitally sovereign. Please do check out the whole website, it will be worth your time!

                https://european-alternatives.eu/alternatives-to

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                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                  If you live outside of the United States,
                  do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                  What would happen to your work?

                  What would happen to your hospitals?

                  What would happen to your emergency services?

                  What would happen to your banks?

                  Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                  What would happen?
                  Is your country prepared?

                  #DataSovereignty

                  cmsdengl@mas.toC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  cmsdengl@mas.to
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #30

                  @Em0nM4stodon

                  I wrote to my MP (UK) about this. I didn't get a sensible reply

                  - My former employer ran MS servers. They would grind to a halt
                  - Some UK hospitals were still using Windows XP - dead in the water
                  - Emergency services and banks - don't know

                  The whole country would be screwed

                  You can also add the threat to close payment services like Visa, Mastercard and Paypal.

                  stekopf@mstdn.socialS freci@piaille.frF rickd_card@socialbc.caR 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    If you live outside of the United States,
                    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                    What would happen to your work?

                    What would happen to your hospitals?

                    What would happen to your emergency services?

                    What would happen to your banks?

                    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                    What would happen?
                    Is your country prepared?

                    #DataSovereignty

                    worldtravelerall7@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
                    worldtravelerall7@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
                    worldtravelerall7@mastodon.world
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #31

                    @Em0nM4stodon

                    🤔 i can't imagine this US govt would do that for the simple fact all those companies are currently bribing Dotard Tumor. if it happened, i'd assume it was a grift by Dotard to extract more bribes from them to turn it back on

                    it would greatly affect clients

                    personally:
                    i use a degoogled Fairphone
                    using LibreOffice for decades
                    shopping for a Linux 2in1 laptop to fully ditch microsoft
                    use Signal for video & most comms now
                    switched to Proton mail
                    I NEVER shop on Amazon

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      If you live outside of the United States,
                      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                      What would happen to your work?

                      What would happen to your hospitals?

                      What would happen to your emergency services?

                      What would happen to your banks?

                      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                      What would happen?
                      Is your country prepared?

                      #DataSovereignty

                      mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                      mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                      mast0d0nphan@beige.party
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #32

                      @Em0nM4stodon Say it with me now:

                      The cloud is someone else's computer.

                      nieuemma@mastodon.deN 1 Reply Last reply
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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        If you live outside of the United States,
                        do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                        What would happen to your work?

                        What would happen to your hospitals?

                        What would happen to your emergency services?

                        What would happen to your banks?

                        Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                        What would happen?
                        Is your country prepared?

                        #DataSovereignty

                        xenophile@masto.hackers.townX This user is from outside of this forum
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                        xenophile@masto.hackers.town
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #33

                        @Em0nM4stodon lol and here i am working out what to do when the power and internet are cut 😉

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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          If you live outside of the United States,
                          do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                          What would happen to your work?

                          What would happen to your hospitals?

                          What would happen to your emergency services?

                          What would happen to your banks?

                          Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                          What would happen?
                          Is your country prepared?

                          #DataSovereignty

                          verenarupp@social.vivaldi.netV This user is from outside of this forum
                          verenarupp@social.vivaldi.netV This user is from outside of this forum
                          verenarupp@social.vivaldi.net
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #34

                          @Em0nM4stodon I brought this issue up at our yearly company council conference. My concerns were more or less brushed aside. "We can't move that many people to a different operating system", they said. "Our servers are safe", they said.

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                          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                            If you live outside of the United States,
                            do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                            What would happen to your work?

                            What would happen to your hospitals?

                            What would happen to your emergency services?

                            What would happen to your banks?

                            Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                            What would happen?
                            Is your country prepared?

                            #DataSovereignty

                            miki@dragonscave.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            miki@dragonscave.space
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #35

                            @Em0nM4stodon @blotosmetek We're as prepared as the US is for China cutting off access to the products they manufacture. Or, in fact, as prepared as we are for that eventuality ourselves. There's a similar situation with Taiwan and chips, or the Netherlands and chipmaking machines. This is probably number 30 on our priority list right now.

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                            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                              If you live outside of the United States,
                              do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                              What would happen to your work?

                              What would happen to your hospitals?

                              What would happen to your emergency services?

                              What would happen to your banks?

                              Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                              What would happen?
                              Is your country prepared?

                              #DataSovereignty

                              derickr@phpc.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              derickr@phpc.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #36

                              @Em0nM4stodon We (the UK) would be fucked.

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                              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                If you live outside of the United States,
                                do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                What would happen to your work?

                                What would happen to your hospitals?

                                What would happen to your emergency services?

                                What would happen to your banks?

                                Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                What would happen?
                                Is your country prepared?

                                #DataSovereignty

                                hiphopheaven@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                hiphopheaven@mastodon.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #37

                                @Em0nM4stodon that's why, we should have start cutting our relieve to the USA at least since the USA killed millions in vietnam

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                                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                  If you live outside of the United States,
                                  do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                  What would happen to your work?

                                  What would happen to your hospitals?

                                  What would happen to your emergency services?

                                  What would happen to your banks?

                                  Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                  What would happen?
                                  Is your country prepared?

                                  #DataSovereignty

                                  karel_kosnar@mastodonczech.czK This user is from outside of this forum
                                  karel_kosnar@mastodonczech.czK This user is from outside of this forum
                                  karel_kosnar@mastodonczech.cz
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #38

                                  @Em0nM4stodon in Czech republic is seznam.cz. many people use email, maps and other services from seznam. So no big deal for lot of people.

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                                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                    If you live outside of the United States,
                                    do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                    What would happen to your work?

                                    What would happen to your hospitals?

                                    What would happen to your emergency services?

                                    What would happen to your banks?

                                    Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                    What would happen?
                                    Is your country prepared?

                                    #DataSovereignty

                                    hiway@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    hiway@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #39

                                    @Em0nM4stodon not sure about the bigger picture, but many govt offices use Linux. As far as what the incumbents think they need to function, we have great home made surveillance and identification/oppression systems already in place.

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                                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                      If you live outside of the United States,
                                      do you know if your country has a plan if the US government decided to cut access to Google, Microsoft, and Amazon products overnight?

                                      What would happen to your work?

                                      What would happen to your hospitals?

                                      What would happen to your emergency services?

                                      What would happen to your banks?

                                      Imagine overnight, for all those public services and private businesses, no more Windows, no more AWS, no more Google and Microsoft office software, no more remote files storage, no more emails, no more online maps, no more videochats.

                                      What would happen?
                                      Is your country prepared?

                                      #DataSovereignty

                                      guigsy@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      guigsy@mstdn.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #40

                                      @Em0nM4stodon You'll be hard pressed to find a business that doesn't use Google or MS desktop apps. A good chunk of businesses have their enterprise applications in US controlled cloud. And those that don't are often using third party apps and SaaS that rely on US cloud under the hood.

                                      Basically, losing connections to Google, MS and AWS would shut down a country.

                                      Which is why we need IT sovereignty... but it's not an easy problem to solve. US tech is ingrained deep!

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                                      • cmsdengl@mas.toC cmsdengl@mas.to

                                        @Em0nM4stodon

                                        I wrote to my MP (UK) about this. I didn't get a sensible reply

                                        - My former employer ran MS servers. They would grind to a halt
                                        - Some UK hospitals were still using Windows XP - dead in the water
                                        - Emergency services and banks - don't know

                                        The whole country would be screwed

                                        You can also add the threat to close payment services like Visa, Mastercard and Paypal.

                                        stekopf@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        stekopf@mstdn.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #41

                                        @cmsdengl

                                        Wouldn't Windows XP computers unaffected? MS stopped support of this software long ago.
                                        (but of course it's bad to still use XP)

                                        @Em0nM4stodon

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                                        • bubblegumyeti@mastodon.socialB bubblegumyeti@mastodon.social

                                          @Em0nM4stodon i am pretty ok tbh, almost everything is stored in EU

                                          guigsy@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          guigsy@mstdn.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #42

                                          @BubblegumYeti @Em0nM4stodon Stored in the EU provides almost zero protection. Your cloud is still run by a US company that WILL comply with US orders to exfiltrate your data and/or turn off the access.

                                          benedikt_lauenburg@norden.socialB oyu_fka@mastodon.socialO 2 Replies Last reply
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