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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

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  • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

    @benroyce

    I sure wish I was as similarly convinced of the evil of the American public. Yeah, when our leaders run amok, the thing which will convince those rogue elephants of their evil ways is to damage ordinary people who didn't do anything to anyone, just trying to run a business.

    That's "reality"

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    #69

    @tuban_muzuru

    yes. that is the reality. elections have consequences. and what let us down is nonvoters and MAGA. it is their fault. we will now suffer, because of them. and there is no way around that. i'm not saying it's good, i'm not saying it is bad. i'm saying it is inevitable

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    • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

      @benroyce

      I don't agree on the necessity of Ranked Choice.

      In the Presidential elections, the candidates with the most electoral votes wins.

      It doesn't matter if there are 2 or 20 parties.

      The system was set up before the "two parties" even existed. The first few elections were party-free; candidates published what they stood for, and people voted based on their wishes.

      If you vote third party, it's because you don't agree with the left or the right, or their candidates, and that's all.

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #70

      @admin

      no. you don't understand the topic

      first past the post means only two parties dominate. they cannibalize the platforms of smaller parties because of the math of the voting system. 3rd parties are unstable in fptp, and fade away

      3rd party's only value in our voting system is to divide the left, or the right, and help the other side win

      when you vote 3rd party, all you are doing is helping trump. this isn't your intention, but that is exactly what you are doing

      it's just math

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      • bazcook@mas.toB bazcook@mas.to

        @benroyce @ikuturso @lynfox - much of the problem is that states *do* run the national elections. In many countries, the vote is handled by an arms-length federal agency. They set electoral borders (not just the state / provincial borders, but ensuring roughly the same number of voters are in each jurisdiction) and they are responsible for the count procedures. US states have a tendency to invent electoral borders to suit their Party of choice. And then there's your Electoral College...

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        #71

        @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

        yes, the us election system is completely fucked up

        we need to fix it

        how do we do that?

        we show up and vote for candidates who will do that

        we can't act like the problems are insurmountable and permanent, because that only helps the fascists

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

          #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

          Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

          As an American: don't come here

          Don't do business with the #USA

          Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

          https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

          #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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          #72

          @benroyce Omg I didn't know if these calls to boycott were all hot air... I hoped it would work. I love to hear this. ❤️ 🔥

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @tuban_muzuru

            yes. that is the reality. elections have consequences. and what let us down is nonvoters and MAGA. it is their fault. we will now suffer, because of them. and there is no way around that. i'm not saying it's good, i'm not saying it is bad. i'm saying it is inevitable

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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #73

            @benroyce

            No, it's policy. We decide to tell people not to come here, don't do business here - how will that get more people to vote for reasonable candidates?

            It won't and we both know it.

            tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT benroyce@mastodon.socialB huntn00@mastodon.worldH 3 Replies Last reply
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            • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

              @pascaline @benroyce the weird thing?

              At break, I was happy to play rounders - someone brought in a ball and bat...or football with a tennis ball with my mates - with one goal made of bags or coats!

              But when it came to organised games, I was always picked last and the PE teachers would give me aggro.

              So I wasn't against sports, or exercise but something horrible came in when it was made official. Competitiveness is ugly.

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              #74

              @radioclash

              I understand 😊
              I never liked running when it was a competition (although I was very fast), but I really enjoyed it alone. The competitiveness is sickening and I stay away from it anywhere it pops up.

              I know what I'm good at and know my skills, and have been appreciated for them. But I don't like when it becomes competitive. Some people also seem to thrive on getting others down and criticise them just because they get a kick out of it. Just be kind, it's so important.

              @benroyce

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @admin

                100% agreed

                but even if we don't get that, you still vote for the candidate that isn't an outright fascist. it's just self-preservation

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                #75

                @benroyce @admin

                You would have to find one and they don't exist

                Waiting for The fascists in both party to provide real candidates is literally the definition of insanity

                We have tried this for decades and it does nothing but get worse...

                Even a mildly left platform including stopping genocide would have ended this in 2024

                But Bush in a skirt lost to cheetolini because instead of being that candidate which would have won easily, she punted and promised more fascism just with a smile and some fun

                We have to throw them all out because they will not help us they have made it quite clear

                Collaborator/crypto Democrats are helping the nazis just as much (if not more) at this point by doing not a single thing

                Fuckwads secret police are now shooting people in the face and then saying she deserved it

                When it was all on camera

                You think that these people are going to get voted out?

                It is that type of apathy that is the biggest factor in fascisms advance

                Just waiting for the elections is a privileged position... It means that they aren't shooting at you yet

                Right now it is the VAST majority of people doing absolutely nothing that is making it easy for fascism to move forward

                We all need a personal game plan about what sacrifices we are willing to make, because if not it will get so much worse so much faster and when it's all over if we are still alive we will be one of the people that has to lie when they say they were against it the whole time

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @admin

                  no. you don't understand the topic

                  first past the post means only two parties dominate. they cannibalize the platforms of smaller parties because of the math of the voting system. 3rd parties are unstable in fptp, and fade away

                  3rd party's only value in our voting system is to divide the left, or the right, and help the other side win

                  when you vote 3rd party, all you are doing is helping trump. this isn't your intention, but that is exactly what you are doing

                  it's just math

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #76

                  @benroyce

                  If that's the case, then voting third party would have no effect on the other two parties.

                  I've been told that my vote for a third party helped Harris in the last election... I've been told that my third party vote helped Trump in the last election.

                  Both can't be true.. and if they are, then I need to be arrested and jailed for voter fraud, because that means I voted three times with one vote.

                  Third party voters are voting their conscience, as they should, and divides nothing. -c-

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @admin

                    no. you don't understand the topic

                    first past the post means only two parties dominate. they cannibalize the platforms of smaller parties because of the math of the voting system. 3rd parties are unstable in fptp, and fade away

                    3rd party's only value in our voting system is to divide the left, or the right, and help the other side win

                    when you vote 3rd party, all you are doing is helping trump. this isn't your intention, but that is exactly what you are doing

                    it's just math

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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #77

                    @benroyce

                    The "divides the vote for X party" argument only works if you assume that the third party vote already belonged to one of the two major parties to begin with - and it doesn't.

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                    • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                      @benroyce

                      No, it's policy. We decide to tell people not to come here, don't do business here - how will that get more people to vote for reasonable candidates?

                      It won't and we both know it.

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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #78

                      @benroyce

                      Y'know what might make a difference, roust out our gerontocratic Democratic leadership - now those folks have no grasp of reality. How about not-voting for them?

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                      • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

                        @pascaline @benroyce also sports were gendered - boys had to play rugby, football and sometimes hockey. Only the girls could play tennis which I wanted to play. And I wasn't good at swimming - again I was abandoned cos I didn't progress fast enough and left to the shallow end.

                        There was no choice, and I didn't like team sports.

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                        #79

                        @radioclash

                        Ha, the gendering is so stupid.
                        The boys were creating very cool things with wood, metal, saws, and much more. All I had was a sewing machine (if I was 'lucky') but for the rest it was knitting and so on. Boring. I mean; it can be fun and I actually like it, but I really would have loved doing something the boys did. But alas, we were not allowed.

                        I was very good at swimming (super fast) but I was afraid to dive. So, I preferred swimming alone to avoid the bullying.

                        @benroyce

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                        • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                          @benroyce

                          No, it's policy. We decide to tell people not to come here, don't do business here - how will that get more people to vote for reasonable candidates?

                          It won't and we both know it.

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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #80

                          @tuban_muzuru

                          i don't think canadians are ceasing to come because i got on social media and said the usa sucks

                          i do think canadians are ceasing to come because an orange turd got on social media and threatened to annex them

                          the question is why the orange turd can do that

                          and the answer is because enough couldn't be bothered to vote, and enough are ignorants who love bigotry, that he is in power

                          it's not anything we control anymore

                          we had control, and we blew it

                          we better vote next time

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                          • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                            @benroyce

                            Y'know what might make a difference, roust out our gerontocratic Democratic leadership - now those folks have no grasp of reality. How about not-voting for them?

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                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #81

                            @tuban_muzuru

                            the democrats fucking suck

                            replace them with young leftists

                            show up in the primaries

                            but just not voting and having no transition means you're just handing more to maga. and even less will visit the driftless

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                            • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                              @benroyce

                              Y'know what might make a difference, roust out our gerontocratic Democratic leadership - now those folks have no grasp of reality. How about not-voting for them?

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                              #82

                              @tuban_muzuru @benroyce

                              I don’t think “reasonable leadership” is an option on the table anymore.

                              There’s no going back to the “old normal” here in the New Normal™

                              The options are the unreasonable vs the wicked.

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                                #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                                Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                                As an American: don't come here

                                Don't do business with the #USA

                                Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                                https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                                #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                                #83

                                @benroyce Yeah the U.S. has the plague, folks. Quarantine the fuck out of us.

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                                  #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                                  Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                                  As an American: don't come here

                                  Don't do business with the #USA

                                  Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                                  https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                                  #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #84

                                  @benroyce 🔥

                                  Somehow, FIFA is completely missed the fact that the World Cup in the United States poses a material health risk to anyone outside of the United States wanting to view it. And that toy prize they gave to Trump that didn’t help that did not help.

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                                  • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

                                    @radioclash

                                    Ha, the gendering is so stupid.
                                    The boys were creating very cool things with wood, metal, saws, and much more. All I had was a sewing machine (if I was 'lucky') but for the rest it was knitting and so on. Boring. I mean; it can be fun and I actually like it, but I really would have loved doing something the boys did. But alas, we were not allowed.

                                    I was very good at swimming (super fast) but I was afraid to dive. So, I preferred swimming alone to avoid the bullying.

                                    @benroyce

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                                    #85

                                    @pascaline @benroyce I struggle to sew now because it was so gendered in school. I'd rather they taught ALL of us to knit and sew....but we did a little sampler work once but it wasm't a thing.

                                    Also being 'knot blind' doesn't help. It's not exactly dyspraxia but something like that, I can't tie knots at all, ties are a problem.

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                                    • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                                      @benroyce

                                      If that's the case, then voting third party would have no effect on the other two parties.

                                      I've been told that my vote for a third party helped Harris in the last election... I've been told that my third party vote helped Trump in the last election.

                                      Both can't be true.. and if they are, then I need to be arrested and jailed for voter fraud, because that means I voted three times with one vote.

                                      Third party voters are voting their conscience, as they should, and divides nothing. -c-

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                                      #86

                                      @admin

                                      i don't know what to say to you. you're saying something that's just simply false. a third party vote divides the left and hands a win to trump

                                      happened with nader in 2000

                                      happened with perot in 1992 (in that case, it was dividing the right, giving a win to clinton)

                                      are you familiar with the idea of someone who has good intentions but only winds up hurting something?

                                      that is what you are doing

                                      watch this, learn about voting systems:

                                      https://youtu.be/qf7ws2DF-zk

                                      (the title is just edgy)

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                                      • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                                        @benroyce

                                        The "divides the vote for X party" argument only works if you assume that the third party vote already belonged to one of the two major parties to begin with - and it doesn't.

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                                        #87

                                        @admin

                                        that's not true

                                        if i am left leaning, i prefer the 3rd party candidate, but if that candidate doesn't win, i certainly don't want trump

                                        but i get trump, because of the way the voting system works, because i voted 3rd party

                                        it's just math, in our sucky fptp voting system

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                                        • paninid@mastodon.worldP paninid@mastodon.world

                                          @tuban_muzuru @benroyce

                                          I don’t think “reasonable leadership” is an option on the table anymore.

                                          There’s no going back to the “old normal” here in the New Normal™

                                          The options are the unreasonable vs the wicked.

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                                          #88

                                          @paninid @benroyce

                                          "Inspiration move me brightly
                                          Light the song with sense and color
                                          Hold away despair
                                          More than this I will not ask
                                          Faced with mysteries dark and vast
                                          Statements just seem vain at last
                                          Some rise, some fall, some climb
                                          To get to Terrapin"

                                          Truth is, Ben, I'll be glad to be gone.

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