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Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

    #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

    Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

    As an American: don't come here

    Don't do business with the #USA

    Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

    https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

    #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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    #42

    @benroyce solution: bully the participating nations using diplomatic and commercial levers, until they conscript fans to go.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

      but what is the point of this comment in your mind

      because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants

      you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump

      and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting

      the only effect is you are helping trump

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      #43

      @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox I don't think non-Americans realize just how scared _Americans_ are of Americans that are Very Angry and feel completely justified in that Anger.

      That is America's greatest export. It was called-upon to help end two world wars with great success and try to tip the scales in colony skirmishes with far less success.

      The people on our money are people who managed to wrangle that dark magic of 'Pissed Off American' for a while without destroying the country.

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

        but what is the point of this comment in your mind

        because when you act like trump's malice is unstoppable, you're saying the vote is meaningless. therefore people won't vote, therefore trump gets what he wants

        you're wrong on the facts of how the vote happens in the USA: it's controlled by the states, not trump

        and you're wrong on the attitude, you're presenting a fallacious rationale that there's no use in voting

        the only effect is you are helping trump

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        #44

        @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox Also, even under the premise that voting is meaningless, and Americans have to uprise instead: Voting, and getting everybody to vote is the best way to start an uprising. If millions of people vote and their votes are stolen, then they'll be motivated to uprise. If they stay home thinking their votes don't matter, and then the votes cast don't matter, all they'll do is say "I told you so".

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        • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

          @benroyce I am amazed anyone travels to the US for ANYTHING - be it World Cup or Olympics, They have put our citizens in ICE detention, and those of fellow Europeans.

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          #45

          @radioclash

          It's completely crazy.

          That being said, and I may be get it for saying it, is that I think the entire organised football whatever is disgusting; football stars have nasty glittering egos; the organisation is all about money, boot licking, and even more money; and supporters behave like football is war.

          Also: I never understood all the destruction and hooliganism. Why not ALWAYS be happy for the winning team, then it's always a party!

          @benroyce

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          • epilonious@toot.lgbtE epilonious@toot.lgbt

            @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox I don't think non-Americans realize just how scared _Americans_ are of Americans that are Very Angry and feel completely justified in that Anger.

            That is America's greatest export. It was called-upon to help end two world wars with great success and try to tip the scales in colony skirmishes with far less success.

            The people on our money are people who managed to wrangle that dark magic of 'Pissed Off American' for a while without destroying the country.

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            #46

            @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox A bunch of the people who knew how destructive and terrible Pissed Off Americans could be... who spent DECADES going "Let's see if we can just contain these couple of grumps and trust these folks who say they have it handled and know how to keep 'em calm" are now glowing Red, White, and Blue with the flames of apoplexy at the sheer incompetence and unbridled pettyness.

            All the "When they go low we go high" folks are now basically going "High road's closed."

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @lynfox @bazcook @ikuturso

              right but we can still vote and elect dems to control congress and freeze his agenda

              this whole sentiment "the usa is already nazi germany" is self-defeating: you want trump to lose, right? so why act like he already won everything? trump is not untouchable. why act like he is? do you want to help trump? i don't think so, but that's what your words are doing because you're presenting a fallacious rationale that voting doesn't matter anymore. it still matters

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              #47

              @benroyce @lynfox @ikuturso - absolutely, Americans must vote. Everyone eligible to do so. Without fear of repercussion. Providing the government lets it happen. Or accepts the result.
              I don't see a another January 6th - this time led by Democrats - happening. Or without significant bloodshed if it does.

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                As an American: don't come here

                Don't do business with the #USA

                Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                #48

                @benroyce

                I agree.. both parties need to give us candidates we can vote FOR, instead of candidates to vote AGAINST...

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                • bazcook@mas.toB bazcook@mas.to

                  @benroyce @lynfox @ikuturso - absolutely, Americans must vote. Everyone eligible to do so. Without fear of repercussion. Providing the government lets it happen. Or accepts the result.
                  I don't see a another January 6th - this time led by Democrats - happening. Or without significant bloodshed if it does.

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                  #49

                  @bazcook @lynfox @ikuturso

                  thank you

                  🙏

                  i just worry about talk that paints it as if trump is insurmountable. it deadens people's spirits

                  trump is defeatable

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                    #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                    Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                    As an American: don't come here

                    Don't do business with the #USA

                    Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                    https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                    #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                    #50

                    @benroyce Good. Fuck the United States, land of the criminal pedophiles, home of the free billionaires to fuck everyone and everything because feelings. I hope it's such an embarrassing dud just like needledick Trump. #Loser #FIFA #WorldCup #Boycott #SuckUp #Assholes who capitulate.

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                    • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                      @benroyce

                      I agree.. both parties need to give us candidates we can vote FOR, instead of candidates to vote AGAINST...

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                      #51

                      @admin

                      100% agreed

                      but even if we don't get that, you still vote for the candidate that isn't an outright fascist. it's just self-preservation

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                      • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

                        @radioclash

                        It's completely crazy.

                        That being said, and I may be get it for saying it, is that I think the entire organised football whatever is disgusting; football stars have nasty glittering egos; the organisation is all about money, boot licking, and even more money; and supporters behave like football is war.

                        Also: I never understood all the destruction and hooliganism. Why not ALWAYS be happy for the winning team, then it's always a party!

                        @benroyce

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                        #52

                        @pascaline @benroyce sadly that happens in all sports, holliganism and destruction, football isn't alone in that.

                        But yes although football is massive here in the UK, I've never got it. Watched the odd World Cup, but not really into sportsball. I was constantly criticised at school for not getting into team sports, and the fans of same can be very homophobic so avoided.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                          #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                          Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                          As an American: don't come here

                          Don't do business with the #USA

                          Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                          https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                          #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                          #53

                          @benroyce

                          When I see this sort of thing:

                          "As an American: don't come here
                          Don't do business with the #USA"

                          I'm thinking about the people around me, here in Wisconsin, dependent on tourist business - it's pretty terrible up here just now.

                          Not a milligram of nuance to anything said around here.

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @admin

                            100% agreed

                            but even if we don't get that, you still vote for the candidate that isn't an outright fascist. it's just self-preservation

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                            #54

                            @benroyce

                            Pretty much why I've voted third party for the last six elections...

                            I keep hoping more people do so, so a third party can get into the debates and provide another point of view, and someone else to vote for.

                            Maybe the rise of a third party will make the other two pull their heads out of their butts and do the job right, because NEITHER party has done so in recent memory....

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                            • epilonious@toot.lgbtE epilonious@toot.lgbt

                              @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox A bunch of the people who knew how destructive and terrible Pissed Off Americans could be... who spent DECADES going "Let's see if we can just contain these couple of grumps and trust these folks who say they have it handled and know how to keep 'em calm" are now glowing Red, White, and Blue with the flames of apoplexy at the sheer incompetence and unbridled pettyness.

                              All the "When they go low we go high" folks are now basically going "High road's closed."

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                              #55

                              @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about Karens.

                              Now imagine Karen with G-Wagon/Cybertruck/Yank-Tank with her kids in it and no fucks to give because she just saw her friend and neighbor get popped by someone 'Not From Their Town'?

                              She'll knock down whatever gravy seal, park with a wheel on his chest, and live stream them going through compartmentalization syndrome while calmly telling him he deserves it because he messed up her brunch plans with the lady he just shot.

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                              • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                                @benroyce

                                When I see this sort of thing:

                                "As an American: don't come here
                                Don't do business with the #USA"

                                I'm thinking about the people around me, here in Wisconsin, dependent on tourist business - it's pretty terrible up here just now.

                                Not a milligram of nuance to anything said around here.

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                                #56

                                @tuban_muzuru

                                that's correct

                                avoid the usa. completely. florida. nevada. wisconsin. everywhere

                                zero nuance intended. zero nuance required

                                the country is acting in ways that can not and should not pass without consequence

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @tuban_muzuru

                                  that's correct

                                  avoid the usa. completely. florida. nevada. wisconsin. everywhere

                                  zero nuance intended. zero nuance required

                                  the country is acting in ways that can not and should not pass without consequence

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                                  #57

                                  @benroyce

                                  Consequences for whom? Sure does make ethics a lot simpler when you can just throw us all in your Hefty Bag.

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                                  • epilonious@toot.lgbtE epilonious@toot.lgbt

                                    @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about Karens.

                                    Now imagine Karen with G-Wagon/Cybertruck/Yank-Tank with her kids in it and no fucks to give because she just saw her friend and neighbor get popped by someone 'Not From Their Town'?

                                    She'll knock down whatever gravy seal, park with a wheel on his chest, and live stream them going through compartmentalization syndrome while calmly telling him he deserves it because he messed up her brunch plans with the lady he just shot.

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                                    #58

                                    @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about rednecks.

                                    Now imagine rednecks in the woods they grew-up-in sniping at agents, pulling them deeper into the woods, and then wounding one of them so they can draw out the rest of the squad.

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                                    • epilonious@toot.lgbtE epilonious@toot.lgbt

                                      @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox everyone jokes about rednecks.

                                      Now imagine rednecks in the woods they grew-up-in sniping at agents, pulling them deeper into the woods, and then wounding one of them so they can draw out the rest of the squad.

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                                      #59

                                      @benroyce @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox America gets rid of governments they don't like.

                                      American Democracy, for all it's foibles, was the weird, compromise-laden system that tried to get those switches to happen without creating a mass of pissed-off-Americans. And the current government knows it.

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                                      • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

                                        @pascaline @benroyce sadly that happens in all sports, holliganism and destruction, football isn't alone in that.

                                        But yes although football is massive here in the UK, I've never got it. Watched the odd World Cup, but not really into sportsball. I was constantly criticised at school for not getting into team sports, and the fans of same can be very homophobic so avoided.

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                                        #60

                                        @radioclash

                                        Ah yes, the outcast because one doesn't like team sports. I was like that as well. Oh wait, I was an outcast for all other reasons, too.

                                        There was something similar to dodgeball in school, I so disliked it. I didn't understand why one would want to hurt someone by hitting them as hard as possible.
                                        The other children didn't want to play badminton with me because I kept throwing them impossible to hit shuttles. I never understood. Hitting a shuttle was simple.

                                        @benroyce

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                                        • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                                          @benroyce

                                          Pretty much why I've voted third party for the last six elections...

                                          I keep hoping more people do so, so a third party can get into the debates and provide another point of view, and someone else to vote for.

                                          Maybe the rise of a third party will make the other two pull their heads out of their butts and do the job right, because NEITHER party has done so in recent memory....

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                                          #61

                                          @admin

                                          the usa is an fptp voting system

                                          there can only ever be 2 parties. it's not corruption (corruption exists, but it's not the reason). it's just math:

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

                                          to get viable 3rd parties we need a new voting system, like ranked choice. then you can vote your conscience free and clear and not worry about dreary strategy

                                          ranked choice is creeping in in places

                                          but if you vote 3rd party *before* we get that you divide the left vote and help MAGA win

                                          you can't vote 3rd party

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