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  • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

    @stanley I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt - it’s just a tech deal - until the CEO came out in support of DHH and his worldview personally. That’s untenable to me.

    stanley@heretic.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @ben Oof, I missed that.

    I guess I'm dreading trying to explain to my wife that we may need to change password managers because of these twisted relationships and wondering if maybe I'm being overly reactionary.

    For example, I have a Framework laptop and they've supported Omarchy in the past. But would switching to Lenovo or Dell really be any better? What's the harm I'm trying to address?

    mawhrin@circumstances.runM reinier@carelesswhisper.nlR crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC clayote@peoplemaking.gamesC at1st@mstdn.caA 5 Replies Last reply
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    • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

      This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. https://www.flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/

      downes@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @ben @1password Same here. I need to find an alternative.

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      • stanley@heretic.socialS stanley@heretic.social

        @ben Oof, I missed that.

        I guess I'm dreading trying to explain to my wife that we may need to change password managers because of these twisted relationships and wondering if maybe I'm being overly reactionary.

        For example, I have a Framework laptop and they've supported Omarchy in the past. But would switching to Lenovo or Dell really be any better? What's the harm I'm trying to address?

        mawhrin@circumstances.runM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @stanley @ben michael dell also decided to make a statement of his personal values by paying a million to the omarchy foundation.

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        • downes@mastodon.socialD downes@mastodon.social

          @ben @1password Same here. I need to find an alternative.

          bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
          bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @Downes @ben @1password same, i might actually write my own one..

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          • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

            This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. https://www.flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/

            nullagent@partyon.xyzN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            VP of 1Password used a picture of his kids as an explanation of why he used company money to financially support a fascist.

            Sad af.

            @ben @1password

            #1Password

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            • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

              This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. https://www.flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/

              ben@social.benjaminturner.meB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @ben@werd.social @1password I bought a version 7 license and never bought the subscription and I'm glad I didn't. I've been working to divest from subscription-based things for some time now. Every product that claims to provide "convenience" these days deserves a good look under the microscope. 1pw big thing is password sync? That's a minor inconvenience I'm willing to shoulder myself.

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              • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

                This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. https://www.flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/

                crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @ben @1password Well. It's as they said: they already have a strong membership in that community.

                And there we see their justification: a fuck ton of money.

                Is what it is. Don't go hoping you can change their minds.

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                • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

                  This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. https://www.flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/

                  andjsch@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #13

                  @ben @1password It's an absolute tragedy and I think at this point they likely will not take their move back unfortunately. Had a look at Passbolt and Proton Pass also looks promising.

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                  • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

                    @stanley I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt - it’s just a tech deal - until the CEO came out in support of DHH and his worldview personally. That’s untenable to me.

                    crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @ben @stanley But you just posted an article where is quoted as doing so!

                    There's his daughter standing by their pool in their multi-million dollar mansion. Let's ignore the haters and get with progress.

                    You don't get more direct than that.

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                    • stanley@heretic.socialS stanley@heretic.social

                      @ben Oof, I missed that.

                      I guess I'm dreading trying to explain to my wife that we may need to change password managers because of these twisted relationships and wondering if maybe I'm being overly reactionary.

                      For example, I have a Framework laptop and they've supported Omarchy in the past. But would switching to Lenovo or Dell really be any better? What's the harm I'm trying to address?

                      reinier@carelesswhisper.nlR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @stanley @ben afaik, Framework stopped sponsoring that dumpster fire.

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                      • ben@social.benjaminturner.meB ben@social.benjaminturner.me

                        @ben@werd.social @1password I bought a version 7 license and never bought the subscription and I'm glad I didn't. I've been working to divest from subscription-based things for some time now. Every product that claims to provide "convenience" these days deserves a good look under the microscope. 1pw big thing is password sync? That's a minor inconvenience I'm willing to shoulder myself.

                        donaldball@triangletoot.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @ben@social.benjaminturner.me @ben@werd.social @1password It’s not just the sync, it’s the sharing, the access controls, the monitoring, the array of clients, etc.

                        I am fucking out of their systems and taking my family with me, but let’s not pretend they weren’t solving a real problem at a fair price for many.

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                        • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

                          This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. https://www.flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/

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                          #17

                          @ben @1password So happy I cancelled earlier this year, dont even have to do anything with this mask off

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                          • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

                            This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. https://www.flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/

                            xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #18

                            @ben @1password

                            Unbelievable and unacceptable indeed!

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                            • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

                              This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. https://www.flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/

                              sellathechemist@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #19

                              @ben @1password Disappointing is such a gentle word…

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                              • mawhrin@circumstances.runM mawhrin@circumstances.run

                                @stanley @ben michael dell also decided to make a statement of his personal values by paying a million to the omarchy foundation.

                                csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #20
                                At this point, checking out of technology and learning to live without electricity is starting to become more morally attractive with each passing day...
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                                • andjsch@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #21

                                  @scott @ben @aliasvault That sucks! Yeah, no PP then it is. I also tried Bitwarden in the past but I really think it lacks in quality. Ideally the new alternative would be open source. But I'd appreciate a writeup of your findings.

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                                  • ben@werd.socialB ben@werd.social

                                    This one will hurt: I love 1Password as a product. But I'm the son of a concentration camp survivor. I will not give money to companies that align themselves with nationalism, and certainly not ethnic cleansing. Completely disappointing, @1password. https://www.flyingpenguin.com/dhh-nazism-funded-by-1password-vp-who-wrote-honest-security/

                                    scottytrees@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #22

                                    @ben never beholden yourself to just one company. always have a backup in the wind, just in case.

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                                    • stanley@heretic.socialS stanley@heretic.social

                                      @ben Oof, I missed that.

                                      I guess I'm dreading trying to explain to my wife that we may need to change password managers because of these twisted relationships and wondering if maybe I'm being overly reactionary.

                                      For example, I have a Framework laptop and they've supported Omarchy in the past. But would switching to Lenovo or Dell really be any better? What's the harm I'm trying to address?

                                      crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #23

                                      @stanley @ben No good reason to get rid of your laptop but I wouldn't go buying from someone I knew was a Nazi or openly supported them again after learning that.

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                                      • stanley@heretic.socialS stanley@heretic.social

                                        @ben I'm bringing this up because I've found you to be a deeply thoughtful person and it's something I've been struggling with...

                                        There has to be a difference between a 1Password, whose crime is funding a project that is led by someone with hateful views and a Palantir, whose entire business is to empower authoritarianism, right?

                                        I feel like we need a #FashTech tier list.

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                                        #24

                                        @stanley @ben It should be noted that Omarchy as a project is (in the words of its creator) specifically political to “keep clowns out of Linux”.

                                        By clowns he means trans people and that they’re mentally ill and should be laughed at and forcefully driven out.

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                                        • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

                                          @Downes @ben @1password same, i might actually write my own one..

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                                          #25

                                          @Downes @ben @1password got thinking about the fun stuff like the security and authentication model, and possibly a plausible-deniability-duress feature. But i realise the least appealing bit will be writing browser interoperability

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