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  • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

    @olasd

    C'est pas quelque chose que j'ai vu de mon côté, en pratique, et quand un compte secondaire récupère les données; mais je manque de recul sur l'outil qui est encore jeune.

    Du coup, actuellement :

    - Pas de `receive` qui se fait depuis le compte principal ;
    - Le cas où tu te fait "desync" est prévu, mais plutôt pour pouvoir resync avec les mêmes clés.

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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #7

    @almet alors je peux t'assurer que le compte secondaire va finir par se désynchro (dans quelques semaines ? quelques mois ? à la prochaine mise à jour du protocole ?), c'est en tout cas ce que j'ai pu constater quand le signal-cli receive arrête de marcher

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    • olasd@mastodon.opportunis.meO olasd@mastodon.opportunis.me

      @almet alors je peux t'assurer que le compte secondaire va finir par se désynchro (dans quelques semaines ? quelques mois ? à la prochaine mise à jour du protocole ?), c'est en tout cas ce que j'ai pu constater quand le signal-cli receive arrête de marcher

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #8

      @almet (mais du coup j'essaie de garder ton outil en tête pour voir quand tu auras quelques mois de recul, parce que l'UX de signal-cli, comment dire... :D)

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      • olasd@mastodon.opportunis.meO olasd@mastodon.opportunis.me

        @almet alors je peux t'assurer que le compte secondaire va finir par se désynchro (dans quelques semaines ? quelques mois ? à la prochaine mise à jour du protocole ?), c'est en tout cas ce que j'ai pu constater quand le signal-cli receive arrête de marcher

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        #9

        @olasd Ah, mais le compte secondaire, dans ce que j'imagine, c'est ton signal desktop, et du coup, s'il reste utilisé il se désynchronise pas.

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        • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

          Signal without smartphone

          A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

          https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

          shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @almet does this tool store data that's critical to recovering stuff like backups?

          i dont see an option to backup from the signal desktop app

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          • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

            @almet does this tool store data that's critical to recovering stuff like backups?

            i dont see an option to backup from the signal desktop app

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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #11

            @ShadowJonathan I never tried to use backups, so… I don't know! I'm creating an issue to remember this and do some research

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            • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

              Signal without smartphone

              A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

              https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

              cody@catboy.babyC This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #12

              @almet@tutut.delire.party Does this require a phone number though? ​​

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              • cody@catboy.babyC cody@catboy.baby

                @almet@tutut.delire.party Does this require a phone number though? ​​

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #13

                @cody yes, you still need one.

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                • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                  @ShadowJonathan I never tried to use backups, so… I don't know! I'm creating an issue to remember this and do some research

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #14

                  @ShadowJonathan https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone/issues/3

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                  • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                    @olasd Ah, mais le compte secondaire, dans ce que j'imagine, c'est ton signal desktop, et du coup, s'il reste utilisé il se désynchronise pas.

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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #15

                    @almet
                    ben... si ! le symptôme que j'ai déjà constaté, c'est une désynchronisation du Signal Desktop environ 5 minutes après qu'il ait servi à envoyer un message (le signal-cli avait arrêté de receive parce qu'on avait raté une maj à faire pour supporter la dernière version du protocole)

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                    • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                      @cody yes, you still need one.

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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #16

                      @almet@tutut.delire.party agh that kinda sucks... still very cool, especially for dumbphone users who still wanna use Signal at home ​​

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                      • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

                        @almet does this tool store data that's critical to recovering stuff like backups?

                        i dont see an option to backup from the signal desktop app

                        almet@tutut.delire.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #17

                        @ShadowJonathan

                        So, it seems that Signal Desktop doesn't do backups. As its the primary intended linked device in my use cases, I don't think I should add support for it so far.

                        More details here: https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone/issues/3#issuecomment-4574799677

                        Thanks for asking!

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                        • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                          Signal without smartphone

                          A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                          https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

                          felipe@social.treehouse.systemsF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #18

                          @almet how is this built?

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                          • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                            @steko Yep, I've seen these claims, and I would like them to be true but… I see no evidence that goes this way, unfortunately, see my message to them here: https://tutut.delire.party/@almet/116557240946918234

                            aboutsignal@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #19

                            @almet @steko fyi https://mastodon.social/@aboutsignal/116657976632074570

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                            • fla@mastodon.socialF fla@mastodon.social

                              @steko @almet Probably not, the guy who saw the commit didn't really understand what this was about.

                              aboutsignal@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #20

                              RE: https://mastodon.social/@aboutsignal/116657976632074570

                              @fla We do understand, but FYI, see the other update/commit here. The future will tell 🙂

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                              • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                Signal without smartphone

                                A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                                https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

                                mannanan@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #21

                                @almet

                                Signal lost me at "Enter your phone number".

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                                • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                  @ShadowJonathan

                                  So, it seems that Signal Desktop doesn't do backups. As its the primary intended linked device in my use cases, I don't think I should add support for it so far.

                                  More details here: https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone/issues/3#issuecomment-4574799677

                                  Thanks for asking!

                                  numodular@c.imN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #22

                                  @almet Backups locally, for privacy - especially facing the AI surge and inevitable hacking increase, following.

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                                  • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                    Signal without smartphone

                                    A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                                    https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

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                                    #23

                                    @almet omg thank you!
                                    Also cool for @postmarketOS@treehouse.systems @postmarketos@lemmy.ml @postmarketos@lemmy.world and @ubports

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                                    • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                      Signal without smartphone

                                      A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                                      https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

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                                      #24

                                      @almet
                                      I guess let's wait until Signal dev complains that this unofficial app uses their servers, same as LibreSignal

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                                      • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                        Signal without smartphone

                                        A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                                        https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

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                                        #25

                                        @almet still requires a phone number, the single most insecure fucking thing that refuses to die and nobody fights hard enough against.

                                        Edit: I would rather use DeltaChat|ArcaneChat or other stuff made by myself or some random guy than anything that requires a phone number

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