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  • steko@scholar.socialS steko@scholar.social

    @almet apparently there is an effort to have this feature in the official app https://aboutsignal.com/news/signal-desktop-without-a-mobile-phone-standalone-version-in-development/

    almet@tutut.delire.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @steko Yep, I've seen these claims, and I would like them to be true but… I see no evidence that goes this way, unfortunately, see my message to them here: https://tutut.delire.party/@almet/116557240946918234

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    • steko@scholar.socialS steko@scholar.social

      @almet apparently there is an effort to have this feature in the official app https://aboutsignal.com/news/signal-desktop-without-a-mobile-phone-standalone-version-in-development/

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      #6

      @steko @almet Probably not, the guy who saw the commit didn't really understand what this was about.

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      • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

        @olasd

        C'est pas quelque chose que j'ai vu de mon côté, en pratique, et quand un compte secondaire récupère les données; mais je manque de recul sur l'outil qui est encore jeune.

        Du coup, actuellement :

        - Pas de `receive` qui se fait depuis le compte principal ;
        - Le cas où tu te fait "desync" est prévu, mais plutôt pour pouvoir resync avec les mêmes clés.

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        #7

        @almet alors je peux t'assurer que le compte secondaire va finir par se désynchro (dans quelques semaines ? quelques mois ? à la prochaine mise à jour du protocole ?), c'est en tout cas ce que j'ai pu constater quand le signal-cli receive arrête de marcher

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        • olasd@mastodon.opportunis.meO olasd@mastodon.opportunis.me

          @almet alors je peux t'assurer que le compte secondaire va finir par se désynchro (dans quelques semaines ? quelques mois ? à la prochaine mise à jour du protocole ?), c'est en tout cas ce que j'ai pu constater quand le signal-cli receive arrête de marcher

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          #8

          @almet (mais du coup j'essaie de garder ton outil en tête pour voir quand tu auras quelques mois de recul, parce que l'UX de signal-cli, comment dire... :D)

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          • olasd@mastodon.opportunis.meO olasd@mastodon.opportunis.me

            @almet alors je peux t'assurer que le compte secondaire va finir par se désynchro (dans quelques semaines ? quelques mois ? à la prochaine mise à jour du protocole ?), c'est en tout cas ce que j'ai pu constater quand le signal-cli receive arrête de marcher

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            #9

            @olasd Ah, mais le compte secondaire, dans ce que j'imagine, c'est ton signal desktop, et du coup, s'il reste utilisé il se désynchronise pas.

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            • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

              Signal without smartphone

              A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

              https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

              shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @almet does this tool store data that's critical to recovering stuff like backups?

              i dont see an option to backup from the signal desktop app

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              • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

                @almet does this tool store data that's critical to recovering stuff like backups?

                i dont see an option to backup from the signal desktop app

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                #11

                @ShadowJonathan I never tried to use backups, so… I don't know! I'm creating an issue to remember this and do some research

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                • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                  Signal without smartphone

                  A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                  https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

                  cody@catboy.babyC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #12

                  @almet@tutut.delire.party Does this require a phone number though? ​​

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                  • cody@catboy.babyC cody@catboy.baby

                    @almet@tutut.delire.party Does this require a phone number though? ​​

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                    #13

                    @cody yes, you still need one.

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                    • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                      @ShadowJonathan I never tried to use backups, so… I don't know! I'm creating an issue to remember this and do some research

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                      #14

                      @ShadowJonathan https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone/issues/3

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                      • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                        @olasd Ah, mais le compte secondaire, dans ce que j'imagine, c'est ton signal desktop, et du coup, s'il reste utilisé il se désynchronise pas.

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                        #15

                        @almet
                        ben... si ! le symptôme que j'ai déjà constaté, c'est une désynchronisation du Signal Desktop environ 5 minutes après qu'il ait servi à envoyer un message (le signal-cli avait arrêté de receive parce qu'on avait raté une maj à faire pour supporter la dernière version du protocole)

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                        • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                          @cody yes, you still need one.

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                          #16

                          @almet@tutut.delire.party agh that kinda sucks... still very cool, especially for dumbphone users who still wanna use Signal at home ​​

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                          • shadowjonathan@tech.lgbtS shadowjonathan@tech.lgbt

                            @almet does this tool store data that's critical to recovering stuff like backups?

                            i dont see an option to backup from the signal desktop app

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                            #17

                            @ShadowJonathan

                            So, it seems that Signal Desktop doesn't do backups. As its the primary intended linked device in my use cases, I don't think I should add support for it so far.

                            More details here: https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone/issues/3#issuecomment-4574799677

                            Thanks for asking!

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                            • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                              Signal without smartphone

                              A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                              https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

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                              #18

                              @almet how is this built?

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                              • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                @steko Yep, I've seen these claims, and I would like them to be true but… I see no evidence that goes this way, unfortunately, see my message to them here: https://tutut.delire.party/@almet/116557240946918234

                                aboutsignal@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #19

                                @almet @steko fyi https://mastodon.social/@aboutsignal/116657976632074570

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                                • fla@mastodon.socialF fla@mastodon.social

                                  @steko @almet Probably not, the guy who saw the commit didn't really understand what this was about.

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                                  #20

                                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@aboutsignal/116657976632074570

                                  @fla We do understand, but FYI, see the other update/commit here. The future will tell 🙂

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                                  • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                    Signal without smartphone

                                    A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                                    https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

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                                    #21

                                    @almet

                                    Signal lost me at "Enter your phone number".

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                                    • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                      @ShadowJonathan

                                      So, it seems that Signal Desktop doesn't do backups. As its the primary intended linked device in my use cases, I don't think I should add support for it so far.

                                      More details here: https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone/issues/3#issuecomment-4574799677

                                      Thanks for asking!

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                                      #22

                                      @almet Backups locally, for privacy - especially facing the AI surge and inevitable hacking increase, following.

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                                      • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                        Signal without smartphone

                                        A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                                        https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

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                                        #23

                                        @almet omg thank you!
                                        Also cool for @postmarketOS@treehouse.systems @postmarketos@lemmy.ml @postmarketos@lemmy.world and @ubports

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                                        • almet@tutut.delire.partyA almet@tutut.delire.party

                                          Signal without smartphone

                                          A Desktop application to register an account with Signal and link it with Signal Desktop, all without requiring a smartphone.

                                          https://github.com/almet/signal-without-smartphone

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                                          #24

                                          @almet
                                          I guess let's wait until Signal dev complains that this unofficial app uses their servers, same as LibreSignal

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