The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization.
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Using an out of band method to share host to IP addresses would work right now.
If the regime learns no one will listen to them, that should discourage them from trying in the future. If not, the part of the world that wants freedom needs to cut the us government and corporations out of their lives.
That's possible though would be an difficult transition period, but if they keep abusing their power they need to lose it
@alienghic but that's what i was talking about earlier. imagine we make our great sovereign euro-icann and euro-root-dns. how long until we also abuse it? how long until our own fascists do the exact same thing? it would be foolish to pretend it's not already been happening. everyone in power wants freedom, freedom to control
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@alienghic but that's what i was talking about earlier. imagine we make our great sovereign euro-icann and euro-root-dns. how long until we also abuse it? how long until our own fascists do the exact same thing? it would be foolish to pretend it's not already been happening. everyone in power wants freedom, freedom to control
@alice And I scrolled down further and found
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The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/
But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2
I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.
EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed
EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link
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Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.
Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
@cwebber@social.coop the entire Internet is a US government project. We like to pretend it's not just because countries have "internet exchanges" and there are things called "autonomous zones", and the Internet is fully privatised and everyone acts like nobody has full control over anything but it is not true. The Internet is a US government project to spread US culture and suit their political agenda.
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@cwebber stares at the entire ActivityPub network having a huge dependence on fucking domain names
@navi this is rly bad but also can u imagine like
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Assuming this is becoming a trend in the western world that's accelerating toward the extreme right. What's the strategy for the technical left? Become more decentralized, teach setting up ad-hoc systems? Become more hidden?@toxomat @cwebber Good questions, I would be interested in ideas and solutions especially ones that I can implement.
At the moment I am trying to create an archive of newspapers which are immutable at least to a much higher degree than websites.
So that trove of information can be referred to in the future.
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Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.
Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
@cwebber noblogs domain at least seems to still be accessible on my end in Europe. Do we know if this is a US specific block, or perhaps I am just getting a cached DNS response?
(Normally I am in the US but I happen to be in Europe right now)
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@cwebber stares at the entire ActivityPub network having a huge dependence on fucking domain names
@navi I wanted to fix this but I don't think there was, or still is, much interest. It would be a lot of work to do something different, at this stage.
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@cwebber stares at the entire ActivityPub network having a huge dependence on fucking domain names
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@eviloatmeal @cwebber oops! it's all at the mercy of one failing nation state!
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@eviloatmeal @navi @cwebber the Americanness of let’s encrypt keeps me up sometimes.
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@navi I wanted to fix this but I don't think there was, or still is, much interest. It would be a lot of work to do something different, at this stage.
@navi@catcatnya.com @cwebber@social.coop how much cash do we need to finace that? I'm not rich, but I can donate
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@navi@catcatnya.com @cwebber@social.coop how much cash do we need to finace that? I'm not rich, but I can donate
@mrthf @navi https://spritely.institute/donate/ We're doing our best to work on alternatives. Anything you can give can help!
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Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.
Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
@cwebber
DNS is so centralised that neither the “D” nor “DD” in “DDNS” don't stand for “decentralised” \sIt was more decentralised when you manually passed `/etc/hosts` around.
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@alice And I scrolled down further and found
@alienghic i am mostly trying to convey a 'what are you even going to do with this information' and 'the usa would nuke the netherlands before admitting defeat, but making sure a/i dies of financial pressure is much easier'
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@navi I wanted to fix this but I don't think there was, or still is, much interest. It would be a lot of work to do something different, at this stage.
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@alienghic i am mostly trying to convey a 'what are you even going to do with this information' and 'the usa would nuke the netherlands before admitting defeat, but making sure a/i dies of financial pressure is much easier'
trying to create work arounds makes it harder for them to impose sanctions, which at the very least slows down their ability oppress someone else.
All the local defense groups chasing ICE around didn't fully stop ICE but it did slow them down and at kept at least some people out of the concentration camps.
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@cwebber that is pretty crazy. any website a government doesn't like can just be removed from the Internet now apparently, simply by labeling it as terrorist propaganda
@onemoreday @cwebber You say "now" like this is a new thing https://dn.org/government-influence-on-dns-through-domain-seizures-and-takedowns/
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trying to create work arounds makes it harder for them to impose sanctions, which at the very least slows down their ability oppress someone else.
All the local defense groups chasing ICE around didn't fully stop ICE but it did slow them down and at kept at least some people out of the concentration camps.
@alienghic i am.. skeptical that a bunch of dorks sharing a host file is comparable to protecting someone from a fascist.
idk propose to register the domain name as a proxy, start your own antifascist collective and share the legal burden of this kind of work, etc. its just a bit frustrating when the 'tech crowds' focus on their ability to access a website and then lose interest. -
@cwebber The countries of the world need to fundamentally understand that this will not change as long as Trump lives and the people who surround him are in power and not in prison. The world should treat its entanglements with the US with wartime urgency. The US must be made the dispensable nation. The sovereignty of every nation on the planet that does not understand this is at stake.
@Infoseepage @cwebber Politicians are not completely stupid. They know this, but appeasing Trump is often seen as the lesser evil, and this is not new with respect to relations with the US.
Sticking Trump in prison is a matter for the voters in the USA, much though I like the idea. Like it or not he got voted in again, so look to fellow countrymen to address the issue.
