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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

    https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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    #45

    @davidgerard

    NB: They let the LLM post all the articles about it and it fucked up even that: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/aigamingfestival/eventcomments/585058652581544556/#c585059318369646471

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

      https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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      #46

      @davidgerard Marked every single game "ignored" and it's honestly a little funny watching steam struggle with that page now

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      • flesh@gts.fleshcraft.techF flesh@gts.fleshcraft.tech

        @Natanox @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Citation: https://github.com/beyond-all-reason/Beyond-All-Reason/blob/master/AI_POLICY.md

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        #47

        @flesh @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard I mean, I've seen worse… and I've seen better. At least they specifically ban any kind of media slop and limit the use of LLMs to "assistance". Also people having to tell which one they used might enable social pressure, away from the most evil ones (like Grok / xAI).

        If the LLMs weren't made through the absolute most inhumane practices possible it would even be reasonable… and I still wonder why FOSS projects don't limit LLM stuff to "true FOSS-only".

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

          https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

          kosure@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #48

          @davidgerard Yeesh, those all look like humans were only tangentially related to their creation.

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

            https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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            #49

            @davidgerard Everyone hit report grouop, select the piracy option and write a sentence or 2 about how ai generated content is based on stolen work

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            • natanox@chaos.socialN natanox@chaos.social

              @flesh @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard I mean, I've seen worse… and I've seen better. At least they specifically ban any kind of media slop and limit the use of LLMs to "assistance". Also people having to tell which one they used might enable social pressure, away from the most evil ones (like Grok / xAI).

              If the LLMs weren't made through the absolute most inhumane practices possible it would even be reasonable… and I still wonder why FOSS projects don't limit LLM stuff to "true FOSS-only".

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              #50

              @Natanox @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Personally, I find the fact it's explicitly permitted alone to be a "avoid like the plague" project.
              The fact they ban slop images is more weird than it is helpful.

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              • flesh@gts.fleshcraft.techF flesh@gts.fleshcraft.tech

                @Natanox @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Personally, I find the fact it's explicitly permitted alone to be a "avoid like the plague" project.
                The fact they ban slop images is more weird than it is helpful.

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                #51

                @flesh @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Well, at least they don't permit "vibe-coding". So that's something.

                Why is it weird they ban slop images and sounds? I think that's just the most fundamental baseline.

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                • natanox@chaos.socialN natanox@chaos.social

                  @flesh @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Well, at least they don't permit "vibe-coding". So that's something.

                  Why is it weird they ban slop images and sounds? I think that's just the most fundamental baseline.

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                  #52

                  @Natanox @flesh @pndc @kaito02

                  > Well, at least they don't permit "vibe-coding"

                  what they allow is absolutely what non-vibecoders think of as vibecoding. Slop is permitted, that's the bottom line.

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                  • natanox@chaos.socialN natanox@chaos.social

                    @flesh @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Well, at least they don't permit "vibe-coding". So that's something.

                    Why is it weird they ban slop images and sounds? I think that's just the most fundamental baseline.

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                    #53

                    @Natanox @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard It's weird because they permit slop code in their software project.
                    It's like a banning high-fructose corn syroup while allowing lead flakes. Not really a consistent standard.

                    The fundamental baseline is not allowing slop. If they can't do that, they get no points.

                    And then there's the possibility that slop images to avoid being caught, since these can be more obvious to the average users than slop code.

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      @Natanox @flesh @pndc @kaito02

                      > Well, at least they don't permit "vibe-coding"

                      what they allow is absolutely what non-vibecoders think of as vibecoding. Slop is permitted, that's the bottom line.

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                      #54

                      @davidgerard @flesh @pndc @kaito02 Ah shit, I threw "Verification and testing" and "Issues and discussions" in the same pot and thought the stuff in regards to Issues also applies on the code itself. You're right, it's way too permissive.

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                      • davey_cakes@mastodon.ieD davey_cakes@mastodon.ie

                        @chx @davidgerard

                        Love it.

                        "We're actually good at our jobs" in short.

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                        #55

                        @davey_cakes @davidgerard they have been successfully running a live service game for 13 years and added a second one recently and while it's been a bit rocky as it can expected everything indicates they will be able to run two successfully long term. It's quite remarkable.

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                        • chx@chx.contactC chx@chx.contact

                          @davey_cakes @davidgerard they have been successfully running a live service game for 13 years and added a second one recently and while it's been a bit rocky as it can expected everything indicates they will be able to run two successfully long term. It's quite remarkable.

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                          #56

                          @chx @davidgerard

                          I knocked a lot of fun out of Path of Exile, it's great, never really got as deep as some people but it's a good laugh

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            a list of games, developers and studios to boycott. handy!

                            https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46280965/sale/AIGamingFestival

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                            #57

                            @davidgerard for fucks sake

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