a list of games, developers and studios to boycott.

[flesh@gts.fleshcraft.tech]

@zzt @davidgerard I mean, they *could* ban the slop.
They just require people disclose it on a honour system.
I don't think they're particularly opposed, either.
Just the classic "don't make *us* liable" stuff Steam seems to do for every issue.

[flesh@gts.fleshcraft.tech]

@Natanox @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Beyond All Reason explicitly allows AI code, so probably not a best example of nonslop.

[natanox@chaos.social]

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fuck.

[flesh@gts.fleshcraft.tech]

@Natanox @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Citation: https://github.com/beyond-all-reason/Beyond-All-Reason/blob/master/AI_POLICY.md

[mccovican@infosec.exchange]

@davidgerard

NB: They let the LLM post all the articles about it and it fucked up even that: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/aigamingfestival/eventcomments/585058652581544556/#c585059318369646471

[baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.us]

@davidgerard Marked every single game "ignored" and it's honestly a little funny watching steam struggle with that page now

[natanox@chaos.social]

@flesh @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard I mean, I've seen worse… and I've seen better. At least they specifically ban any kind of media slop and limit the use of LLMs to "assistance". Also people having to tell which one they used might enable social pressure, away from the most evil ones (like Grok / xAI).

If the LLMs weren't made through the absolute most inhumane practices possible it would even be reasonable… and I still wonder why FOSS projects don't limit LLM stuff to "true FOSS-only".

[kosure@mas.to]

@davidgerard Yeesh, those all look like humans were only tangentially related to their creation.

[ravenluni@furry.engineer]

@davidgerard Everyone hit report grouop, select the piracy option and write a sentence or 2 about how ai generated content is based on stolen work

[flesh@gts.fleshcraft.tech]

@Natanox @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Personally, I find the fact it's explicitly permitted alone to be a "avoid like the plague" project.
The fact they ban slop images is more weird than it is helpful.

[natanox@chaos.social]

@flesh @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard Well, at least they don't permit "vibe-coding". So that's something.

Why is it weird they ban slop images and sounds? I think that's just the most fundamental baseline.

[davidgerard@circumstances.run]

@Natanox @flesh @pndc @kaito02

> Well, at least they don't permit "vibe-coding"

what they allow is absolutely what non-vibecoders think of as vibecoding. Slop is permitted, that's the bottom line.

[flesh@gts.fleshcraft.tech]

@Natanox @pndc @kaito02 @davidgerard It's weird because they permit slop code in their software project.
It's like a banning high-fructose corn syroup while allowing lead flakes. Not really a consistent standard.

The fundamental baseline is not allowing slop. If they can't do that, they get no points.

And then there's the possibility that slop images to avoid being caught, since these can be more obvious to the average users than slop code.

[natanox@chaos.social]

@davidgerard @flesh @pndc @kaito02 Ah shit, I threw "Verification and testing" and "Issues and discussions" in the same pot and thought the stuff in regards to Issues also applies on the code itself. You're right, it's way too permissive.

[chx@chx.contact]

@davey_cakes @davidgerard they have been successfully running a live service game for 13 years and added a second one recently and while it's been a bit rocky as it can expected everything indicates they will be able to run two successfully long term. It's quite remarkable.

[davey_cakes@mastodon.ie]

@chx @davidgerard

I knocked a lot of fun out of Path of Exile, it's great, never really got as deep as some people but it's a good laugh

[pastelfluffyfox@meow.social]

@davidgerard for fucks sake