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The Onion has an AI policy.

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  • farooqkz@mastodon.bsd.cafeF farooqkz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    @jalefkowit

    Well actually if a human can be replaced by AI, this probably means the human hasn't got a valuable skill.

    I can say no AI can replace me to write the code I write, the blog posts I write, and the books I'm going to write.

    This also true about many artists.

    However, not many understand value of a good writing/art/code/video. Fewer who can tell if it's a good and creative one by looking at it.

    So this is the real problem not just AI. But also the people who don't understand.

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    #44

    "if a human can be replaced by AI" is load-bearing here, and is mostly a marketing position from AI companies.

    Additionally, every human creative endeavor is worthwhile, no matter the output's quality, which is arguably subjective. Generative AI just doesn't have a good place in human society.

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    • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

      The Onion has an AI policy. It is refreshingly clear

      https://theonion.com/about-us/

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      #45

      @jalefkowit Excellent news!!

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      • mle_online@social.afront.orgM mle_online@social.afront.org

        @jalefkowit If only I could get the community theater to adopt a policy like this

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        #46

        @MLE_online@social.afront.org @jalefkowit@hachyderm.io I... a community theater that wants to use generative ML??

        that is... depressing

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        • aud@fire.asta.lgbtA aud@fire.asta.lgbt

          @MLE_online@social.afront.org @jalefkowit@hachyderm.io I... a community theater that wants to use generative ML??

          that is... depressing

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          #47

          @aud @jalefkowit Unfortunately, we've had some set designers who are very lazy (and lacking in talent) who have used AI in their sets. As a board member, I've been pushing us to come up with a policy. Some of the board members are on my side, but others are just too credulous and are completely wowed by the magic box. They don't want to agree to a policy that would cut off access to a miraculous tool

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          • mae@is.badat.devM mae@is.badat.dev
            @jalefkowit ok but the onion should write a secondary funny AI policy because it'd be funny
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            #48

            @Mae @jalefkowit yeah, Roger Rabbit /toon "but only if it's funny"

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            • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

              The Onion has an AI policy. It is refreshingly clear

              https://theonion.com/about-us/

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              #49

              @jalefkvowit@hachyderm.io This is how you do an #AI #policy

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              • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                The Onion has an AI policy. It is refreshingly clear

                https://theonion.com/about-us/

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                #50

                @jalefkowit kind of a shame this has to be said in a media website
                Like what's the point of running a media site if you aren't even making the media

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                • stardust@fosstodon.orgS stardust@fosstodon.org

                  Actually, why shouldn't code belong to that list? Can't code also be creative?

                  #LLM #AI @jalefkowit

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                  #51

                  @stardust yes it can, there are so many ways to obfuscate control flow and sophisticated patterns of mismanaging memory (including but not limited to: pretending automagical memory management works)

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                  • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                    @jalefkowit I don't really like this because 'an existential threat to the livelihood of creative professionals' can be read to mean that bullshit generators could actually substitute for the writers of The Onion. I'd much rather that they either omitted this part or explained it in a way that doesn't make that implication.

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                    #52
                    @david_chisnall I think they describe the outcome (displaced workers) rather than the reason for this outcome (greedy bosses rather than output quality). As such, I think it’s fine. As an aside, you aren’t the first to jump to that conclusion this text doesn’t make, but that AI companies readily do in their marketing material.
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                    • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                      The Onion has an AI policy. It is refreshingly clear

                      https://theonion.com/about-us/

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                      #53

                      @jalefkowit It's definitely better not to use it at all for all the ethics & resources reasons but I have to say there is one (1) exception where I'd love them doing it for the bit: Every time they write an article about anything to do with AI

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                      • H hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com
                        @david_chisnall I think they describe the outcome (displaced workers) rather than the reason for this outcome (greedy bosses rather than output quality). As such, I think it’s fine. As an aside, you aren’t the first to jump to that conclusion this text doesn’t make, but that AI companies readily do in their marketing material.
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                        #54

                        @hypolite The problem is that it can easily be framed by boosters as 'legacy media is avoiding AI because they're scared it can replace them!111eleventyone' as a marketing point. Something unambiguous about 'AI cannot replace our workers but AI salesdroids can often convince managers it can, which harms both workers and the companies that make the poor choices' would be clearer and harder for OpenAI to use as marketing.

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                        • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                          The Onion has an AI policy. It is refreshingly clear

                          https://theonion.com/about-us/

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                          #55

                          @jalefkowit

                          This must be the straightest and least ironic/sarcastic piece of prose written at The Onion in a long time. Amazing.

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                          • jalefkowit@hachyderm.ioJ jalefkowit@hachyderm.io

                            The Onion has an AI policy. It is refreshingly clear

                            https://theonion.com/about-us/

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                            #56

                            @jalefkowit Being reluctantly acknowledged made my day!

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