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Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted.

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  • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

    @Su_G yup. wish I had a way to map stuff behind CDNs, but I don't, that's kinda the purpose of a CDN

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    #18

    @ricci
    😁🙏🏻

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    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

      Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

      But their map is wrong.

      Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

      https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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      #19

      @ricci I bet it’s owned by another bunch of techbros. Just techbros not from USA.

      Let’s call them ’Eurobros’ because they just want to do a repeat inside Europe of what the neoliberal project managed to make of the US.

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      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

        Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

        But their map is wrong.

        Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

        https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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        #20

        @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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        • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

          @ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

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          #21

          @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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          • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

            Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

            But their map is wrong.

            Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

            https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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            #22

            @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

              @azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

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              #23

              @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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              • mfr@mastodon.coffeeM mfr@mastodon.coffee

                @ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

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                #24

                @azuidhof @mfr idk unclear, but so far they are connecting to the Bluesky relay, which you could think of as the atproto equivalent of "federating"

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                • jollysea@chaos.socialJ jollysea@chaos.social

                  @ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

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                  #25

                  @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                    @ricci

                    Maybe only tech bro corporate social media sites count. 🤷

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                    #26

                    @mastodonmigration @ricci

                    Not to me 🧡

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                    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                      Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                      But their map is wrong.

                      Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                      https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

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                      #27

                      @ricci

                      Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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                      • supermoosie@mastodon.auS supermoosie@mastodon.au

                        @ricci

                        Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

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                        #28

                        @SuperMoosie @ricci

                        Comission (that is, the EU-ministers) are. The other branches are not.

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                        • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                          Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted. It showed nothing in Europe.

                          But their map is wrong.

                          Here's what Mastodon actually looks like, and what the Fediverse as a whole actually looks like.

                          https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/map/?source=fedi

                          johan@social.terbeest.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #29

                          @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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                          • johan@social.terbeest.orgJ johan@social.terbeest.org

                            @ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

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                            #30

                            @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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                            • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                              @johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

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                              #31

                              @ricci Possibly? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

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                              • colinburgess@mastodon.nzC colinburgess@mastodon.nz

                                @ricci weird, this seems to omit mastodon.nz and mastodon.au @xrobau

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                                #32

                                @colinburgess @ricci @xrobau are birds even real?

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                                  #33

                                  @jollysea @UlrikeHahn read the post

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                                  • johan@social.terbeest.orgJ johan@social.terbeest.org

                                    @ricci Possibly? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

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                                    #34

                                    @johan hmm looks like you are not in the host list I'm using for some reason

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                                    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                      @colinburgess @xrobau thanks maybe I can pull this kind of thing from their API, I'll check

                                      Also, unrelated, I'm the owner of xrob.org so uh hi

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                                      #35

                                      @ricci I'm not sure if the data in FediDB is accurate.
                                      mastodon.uno has an Italian description but is stated to be hosted in France.
                                      https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?search=uno&region=europe

                                      @fedidb what is the information source for the location in FediDB?

                                      @colinburgess @xrobau

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                                      • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

                                        @jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

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                                        #36

                                        @ricci I think its a good idea to own one's mistakes and make it clear when you edit a post. I agree with you on the substance, they are selling themselves for something they are not.

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                                        • segebodo@chaos.socialS segebodo@chaos.social

                                          @ricci I'm not sure if the data in FediDB is accurate.
                                          mastodon.uno has an Italian description but is stated to be hosted in France.
                                          https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?search=uno&region=europe

                                          @fedidb what is the information source for the location in FediDB?

                                          @colinburgess @xrobau

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                                          #37

                                          @fedidb @colinburgess @xrobau @Segebodo FWIW I'm not using fedidb for my data, my crawler is documented here: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fetch-nodeinfo-bot.html

                                          I'm using ipinfo.io for geolocation - but, like fedidb, I can't tell where hosts behind CDNs are automatically. But if they have a system for letting admins indicate their location, and expose it via API, I can maybe get a better guess for some behind CDNs

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